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BAFTA are hosting a 'Jamie Johnson' event this evening if you're interested. see this ....



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Joe
I watched the final series of Byker Grove and it was as bizarre as that tweet makes it out to be. In fact if you go back to the TVF thread at the time you can find me talking about it. I remember wondering why it wasn’t more talked about given the strange transformation from drama to science fiction.

I didn't see the episode at the time, but just found this: https://franticplanet.wordpress.com/2019/07/16/great-moments-in-pop-culture-byker-grove-nukes-the-fourth-wall/

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When I first learned about Byker Grove‘s final episode, I figured it must be Wikipedia vandalism. Christ knows what the audience thought at the time, though by 2006, I was 27, and my tastes had switched to more grown-up viewing, such as internet pornography. It seems to have been pretty normal right up until the very end, with the penultimate couple of shows centring on the Grove being sold off, in the classic Evil Property Developer bit, plus a story where “Hayley learns the shocking truth about her disappearing father.” Unless the shocking truth is he’s a werewolf, nothing would’ve prepared the viewers for what was to come.

There are warning signs of its cack-handed pretension from the very title of the episode, DEUS EX MACHINA, literally rendered onscreen in the **** Papyrus font from Avatar and your geocities website of Final Fantasy midis. We open on the camera moving through the Grove, past a tableaux of frozen characters, in poses typical of such Mannequin Challenge shots; hula-hooping; dropping trays of drinks (everyone always drops stuff right before they get Bullet-Timed); the air filled with a flow of spilled milkshakes, juggling clubs and paper planes caught mid-flight; all set to the music of Gollum’s Song from The Two Towers.

The Grove’s manager, Akili, walks through, seemingly untouched by time. “It’s started,” he says. “What’s started?” thinks a statue-child. “I can’t move,” another. “Of course you can’t,” adds a third, “they haven’t written anything yet.” Yes, the cast of Byker Grove, after 343 episodes of rote storylines about crushes, have suddenly hit on the horrible truth — they’re just characters in a TV show; a TV show that’s about to be cancelled because of “the people who make us do what we do,” aka the writers.

The fact they’re frozen because there’s no script suggests this is their normal, between-episode state; paused, yet fully-conscious, locked in the limbo that exists between the end credits of one episode and the start of the next. Poor PJ must have been silently screaming with paint in his eyes for days, to say nothing of the surely-agonising months-long gaps between series. And now, they’re faced with that deepest of existential human horrors; not just that nothing matters, but that nothing’s real, especially not you.


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iloveTV1 (previously iloveTV2304) London London
That’s an unsettling thought.
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VMPhil Granada North West Today
Joe posted:
I watched the final series of Byker Grove and it was as bizarre as that tweet makes it out to be. In fact if you go back to the TVF thread at the time you can find me talking about it. I remember wondering why it wasn’t more talked about given the strange transformation from drama to science fiction.

I didn't see the episode at the time, but just found this: https://franticplanet.wordpress.com/2019/07/16/great-moments-in-pop-culture-byker-grove-nukes-the-fourth-wall/

Yes I've read that before I think - definitely my the most lasting memory was the white room and the idea that the 'creators' had given them a stack of blank paper to write their own ending. That article says that this only happened in the final two episodes - could have sworn it was longer than that but obviously not.

I also remember I was half expecting Ant and Dec to make a cameo but they didn't. Then I wasn't expecting anything in the last Grange Hill and Todd Carty turned up. Though it does remind me that Grange Hill got a bit lighter in its final series too, bringing back the 'Chicken Man' theme, which I guess was all part of how CBBC at the time was targeting a younger audience, with BBC Switch catering for teens.
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iloveTV1 (previously iloveTV2304) London London
Joe posted:
I watched the final series of Byker Grove and it was as bizarre as that tweet makes it out to be. In fact if you go back to the TVF thread at the time you can find me talking about it. I remember wondering why it wasn’t more talked about given the strange transformation from drama to science fiction.

I didn't see the episode at the time, but just found this: https://franticplanet.wordpress.com/2019/07/16/great-moments-in-pop-culture-byker-grove-nukes-the-fourth-wall/

Yes I've read that before I think - definitely my the most lasting memory was the white room and the idea that the 'creators' had given them a stack of blank paper to write their own ending. That article says that this only happened in the final two episodes - could have sworn it was longer than that but obviously not.

I also remember I was half expecting Ant and Dec to make a cameo but they didn't. Then I wasn't expecting anything in the last Grange Hill and Todd Carty turned up. Though it does remind me that Grange Hill got a bit lighter in its final series too, bringing back the 'Chicken Man' theme, which I guess was all part of how CBBC at the time was targeting a younger audience, with BBC Switch catering for teens.


I’ve heard about the final series of Grange Hill (which I’m currently binging, on series 10), it’s got a couple of fantasy episodes, as well as some plots that were similar to those in Tracy Beaker. That says something.
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DVB Cornwall West Country (West) Spotlight
This Jamie Johnson webinar is very good. The two young leads contributing well.
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iloveTV1 (previously iloveTV2304) London London
Series 2 of Dennis and Gnasher: Unleashed will finally begin on 13th July at 7.15am and 3.25pm.

Seems like a bit of a low-key slot for something new, especially considering all the content rationing. Then again, maybe the quality is a bit rubbish, considering the 8-9 month delay (it was originally due in late 2019).

The synopsis sound terrible as well.

Episode 1: 1/52 New teacher Miss Mistry is taking Class 3C on a trip to Flumes ‘o’ Doom theme park.
Episode 2: 2/52 Pieface is secretly doing chores for Walter, hoping to help Dennis save up some cash.
Episode 3: 3/52 It’s time for Gnasher’s annual bath, but the stinky hound will do anything to avoid it.
Episode 4: 4/52 The after-school art club is under threat of imminent demolition.
Episode 5: 5/52 JJ is convinced that Mrs Creecher is secretly a master of Blamjitsu.
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iloveTV1 (previously iloveTV2304) London London
I'm not sure whether this is a mistake or not (as is often the case!), but just looking at the schedules for 23rd July, a Thursday, Blue Peter is absent from it's usual slot, replaced by a My Life repeat. It's not in the schedule for the rest of the week either, bar repeats of the previous week's show.

Here's the schedules in case I may have missed something - https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl9r/2020/w30
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Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Don't BP usually take the summer off?
Write that down in your copybook now.
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iloveTV1 (previously iloveTV2304) London London
Don't BP usually take the summer off?


They did up to 2011, they stopped the summer break when the show moved to Salford, the CBBC Channel and to only be on once a week.

The presenters usually get summer breaks, but they film about 6 shows for the summer before their break, so there is no official broadcast break - however these shows are usually carried by the challenge films, and of course, there haven't been many of those this year.
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buster London London
There were also no summer breaks in 2001, 2002 and 2003, when Nigel Pickard wanted BP and Live and Kicking to mimic what had worked for SM:TV and run all year round, so the Friday episode was dropped between April and September to pay for it (in 2001 Fridays were given over to a very welcome repeat run for almost all of Maid Marian and her Merry Men).

Richard Marson says in the 50th book that in 2004 when the show went 5 days a week (on CBBC channel at least) one thing they negotiated as part of it was to bring the summer break back again. (5 days a week of course only lasted about 18 months but the summer break remained as the budget kept being cut).
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Steve Williams
Richard Marson says in the 50th book that in 2004 when the show went 5 days a week (on CBBC channel at least) one thing they negotiated as part of it was to bring the summer break back again. (5 days a week of course only lasted about 18 months but the summer break remained as the budget kept being cut).


And in 2005, the summer break ran from May to July, rather than the traditional June to September, because CBBC wanted their big shows on during the school holidays.

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