LL
London Lite
Founding member
Watched Casualty this week on the Roku/NOW TV box iPlayer app and it looked as it the video is 25p rather than 50p without that awful film effect.
DJ
Watched Casualty this week on the Roku/NOW TV box iPlayer app and it looked
as it the video is 25p rather than 50p without that awful film effect.
Similarly I've noticed if I watch Neighbours via My5 (or certain other online sources) the scenes in the studio look less filmic and more studio/video like, but outdoor scenes still look filmic. Strangely, if I watch Corrie via online sources (I can't use ITV Hub on ITV.com) it has the sort of filmic looks as though it's added in post-production.
Watched Casualty this week on the Roku/NOW TV box iPlayer app and it looked
as it the video is 25p rather than 50p without that awful film effect.
Similarly I've noticed if I watch Neighbours via My5 (or certain other online sources) the scenes in the studio look less filmic and more studio/video like, but outdoor scenes still look filmic. Strangely, if I watch Corrie via online sources (I can't use ITV Hub on ITV.com) it has the sort of filmic looks as though it's added in post-production.
DA
I thought Neighbours had gone all-filmic. Perhaps the difference is down to lighting and editing - on set they might stick with multi-camera, whereas outside they might be more likely to go to single-camera.
I seem to recall The Bill going single-camera before they went filmic, which showed on screen and gave it a different feel to a multi-camera soap like Eastenders .
As for Casualty , this Saturday was the 1000th episode, but they didn't seem to make much of it. Duffy came back for a fairly pointless cameo, but she already did that a few months ago when Charlie was at death's door (again). Only a subset of the cast was in on the majority of the action, and I think some didn't appear at all.
Most disappointingly, the E.D. didn't blow up and there wasn't even a Final Destination-style accident-at-home to kick things off!
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Similarly I've noticed if I watch Neighbours via My5 (or certain other online sources) the scenes in the studio look less filmic and more studio/video like, but outdoor scenes still look filmic.
I thought Neighbours had gone all-filmic. Perhaps the difference is down to lighting and editing - on set they might stick with multi-camera, whereas outside they might be more likely to go to single-camera.
I seem to recall The Bill going single-camera before they went filmic, which showed on screen and gave it a different feel to a multi-camera soap like Eastenders .
As for Casualty , this Saturday was the 1000th episode, but they didn't seem to make much of it. Duffy came back for a fairly pointless cameo, but she already did that a few months ago when Charlie was at death's door (again). Only a subset of the cast was in on the majority of the action, and I think some didn't appear at all.
Most disappointingly, the E.D. didn't blow up and there wasn't even a Final Destination-style accident-at-home to kick things off!
LL
London Lite
Founding member
The only good scenes were between Duffy and Charlie which show how good Casualty can be. Yet I fear a soapy plot for those two characters when Cathy Shipton returns full time.
NG
Standard rule of thumb on Top Gear is that studio is 50i, glossy films are 25p, and track stuff can be either (used always to be 50i)
noggin
Founding member
I am so accustomed used to shooting in 25p the sight of 50i in a viewfinder makes things look "too smooth" and fluid and I can't get used to it, only 1 show I work on uses 50i, everything else is 25P. But I remember vividly thinking the opposite when 50i was the norm and I first started to shoot progressive, it looked stuttery and wrong. Now I hardly ever notice, the one recent exception where I found it positively distracting was on a recent Top Gear when they used a mix of 25p and 50i content in the same show, having the two next to each other in studio and VTs was jarring.
Standard rule of thumb on Top Gear is that studio is 50i, glossy films are 25p, and track stuff can be either (used always to be 50i)
NG
Do they just chuck everything on at 720/50p, even if it doesn't need it? I suppose the repeated frames compress well, but I can imagine it might confuse some playback systems, especially if they're trying to do something motion related.
I expect so - all BBC shows are delivered 50i and if they have rolls or crawls on the credits they should be 50i. So even if the content is shot 25p, there could be a benefit for the credits in running 50p...
noggin
Founding member
Last weeks episode was really noticeable for how bad it looked on iPlayer. I was watching via the iPlayer Kodi add-on. Now Kodi unlike the current official iPlayer app can be forced to the highest settings possible, so it's likely it was streaming the 720/50p profile.
Do they just chuck everything on at 720/50p, even if it doesn't need it? I suppose the repeated frames compress well, but I can imagine it might confuse some playback systems, especially if they're trying to do something motion related.
I expect so - all BBC shows are delivered 50i and if they have rolls or crawls on the credits they should be 50i. So even if the content is shot 25p, there could be a benefit for the credits in running 50p...
NG
I thought Neighbours had gone all-filmic. Perhaps the difference is down to lighting and editing - on set they might stick with multi-camera, whereas outside they might be more likely to go to single-camera.
Neighbours switched from 50i to 25p a long time ago - probably when it went HD. (After it left the BBC) They may have changed the lighting look - or moved from multi camera 25p to single camera 25p interiors I guess?
I seem to recall The Bill going single-camera before they went filmic, which showed on screen and gave it a different feel to a multi-camera soap like Eastenders .
The Bill was single camera for a long time before it went 25p. In fact I'm not sure the series was ever multi-camera (the pilot may have been). They had a single camera 4:3 set-up with a trolley carrying the VTR (MII at one point?) and racking position ISTR.
noggin
Founding member
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Similarly I've noticed if I watch Neighbours via My5 (or certain other online sources) the scenes in the studio look less filmic and more studio/video like, but outdoor scenes still look filmic.
I thought Neighbours had gone all-filmic. Perhaps the difference is down to lighting and editing - on set they might stick with multi-camera, whereas outside they might be more likely to go to single-camera.
Neighbours switched from 50i to 25p a long time ago - probably when it went HD. (After it left the BBC) They may have changed the lighting look - or moved from multi camera 25p to single camera 25p interiors I guess?
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I seem to recall The Bill going single-camera before they went filmic, which showed on screen and gave it a different feel to a multi-camera soap like Eastenders .
The Bill was single camera for a long time before it went 25p. In fact I'm not sure the series was ever multi-camera (the pilot may have been). They had a single camera 4:3 set-up with a trolley carrying the VTR (MII at one point?) and racking position ISTR.