Carlton's different sized logos

WP

WillPS 6 June 2011 10:54pm

The end line is that Carlton had a great identity, produced great idents (from 96 onwards) and had a really professional identity. However, their content was very very weak, I think the only hit they produced that is still running is Police Camera Action, and even that's just a clip show of police footage with commentary.

Thames may not have had the style Carlton had but they certainly had the content, and that continues today with the ever successful talkbackTHAMES productions.

Yes the merger was inevitable, but it's nice to think Carlton fought to the end to give their brand at least one good show to it.

Depends what you consider as Carlton.

Inspector Morse was effectively Carlton (once they'd purchased Zenith)
Anything Central made post-1993 was effectively Carlton

If we're talking about legacy, then how many Thames productions are still on air?

NW

nwtv2003 6 June 2011 10:59pm

WillPS posted:

If we're talking about legacy, then how many Thames productions are still on air?

None, the last original Thames programme still on air was The Bill, which ended last year obviously. After 1993 only Wish You Were Here, Take Your Pick, The Bill, Minder, This is your Life and Mr Bean were the only pre 1993 Thames shows that continued, but all of those have since ended, most of them along time ago. Sadly today Thames is just nothing more than half a name of a big production company, shame given it's legacy.

WP

WillPS 6 June 2011 11:06pm

nwtv2003 posted:

WillPS posted:

If we're talking about legacy, then how many Thames productions are still on air?

None, the last original Thames programme still on air was The Bill, which ended last year obviously. After 1993 only Wish You Were Here, Take Your Pick, The Bill, Minder, This is your Life and Mr Bean were the only pre 1993 Thames shows that continued, but all of those have since ended, most of them along time ago. Sadly today Thames is just nothing more than half a name of a big production company, shame given it's legacy.

Exactly my point. And if you rule out The Bill as the exception that proves the rule, you'll see their legacy was pretty similar.

Just as Thames lives on as part of talkbackTHAMES, Carlton UK Productions live on as part of ITV Studios.

MK

Mr Kite 7 June 2011 9:25pm

cwathen posted:

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Was the music re-recorded when the logo was changed? I ask because, until fairly recently, there was a version of the eye/fire ident with the initial logo that seemed to have a different theme arrangement to the one I remember.

There was a file on TV-Ark (almost certainly plagerised on Youtube if you look for it) with a much more embryonic version of the music. This used the 'small logo' and was in 4:3, so it was a very early ident. I don't ever remember that version being used on screen though, so either it's a pre-release version or it didn't last long before being replaced with the standard version.

Yes, I think that's the one. Bascially, it was a short version of the fire one, ie no eye or build up, just straight into the heart morphing into the logo and the three note jingle. Small logo, 4:3 and with a much 'sweeter' rather than dramatic version of the music. As I think about it, it was clean too, so could well have been an unaired prototype.

(June 2011)