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A former member
South bank show still going
TV
Would it be, though, if Melvyn Bragg wasn't involved? That's worth thinking about.
TT
CARLTON
Calling All Real Londoners Turn Over Now
At least, that's what I've seen someone else quote somewhere else. Was that really the gut reaction among Londoners when Carlton took over the London weekday franchise from Thames 1 January 1993? Just one thing though for the first day of their franchise, 1 January 1993 happened to be a Friday, so Carlton only had the airwaves until 5:15pm for their first day; after that time old favourites LWT took hold until the start of GMTV Monday 4 January 1993. Were Londoners glad to see LWT that evening, not Carlton?
I was gutted when Westcountry was rebranded Carlton in September 1999. As far as I was concerned, I was in rural Somerset, south west England, on the overlap between HTV West and Westcountry, therefore the ITV South West England franchise should be Westcountry. Carlton, to me, was the London weekday franchise, and Somerset is over a hundered miles from the centre of London.
Calling All Real Londoners Turn Over Now
At least, that's what I've seen someone else quote somewhere else. Was that really the gut reaction among Londoners when Carlton took over the London weekday franchise from Thames 1 January 1993? Just one thing though for the first day of their franchise, 1 January 1993 happened to be a Friday, so Carlton only had the airwaves until 5:15pm for their first day; after that time old favourites LWT took hold until the start of GMTV Monday 4 January 1993. Were Londoners glad to see LWT that evening, not Carlton?
I was gutted when Westcountry was rebranded Carlton in September 1999. As far as I was concerned, I was in rural Somerset, south west England, on the overlap between HTV West and Westcountry, therefore the ITV South West England franchise should be Westcountry. Carlton, to me, was the London weekday franchise, and Somerset is over a hundered miles from the centre of London.
CW
I was at the head of the queue of outrage when Westcountry was rebranded aas Carlton in 1999. In retrospect though, it really was nothing more than a change of name.
At first, it made no difference at all. Later on, it meant certain things were rationalised (like removing Westcountry's own control over comissioning and scheduling and giving Central that responsibility), but even so, Westcountry (and Central) still ran as fairly autonomous locally run operations right up to 2004, and until October 2002 they both still had their own live, locally based continuity, whilst the majority of the network by then was shared.
Carlton may have taken the names away, but they still allowed a local TV station to operate on their own patch. Meanwhile, Granada may have allowed local names to live on, but they were locked into a policy of destroying everything which underpinned them.
Looking back now, Central and Westcountry were in far healthier shape between 1999 and 2002 than were Yorkshire, Tyne Tees, Granada, Border, Meridian, Anglia et al even though the latter still had their own names on idents whilst the former did not.
cwathen
Founding member
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was gutted when Westcountry was rebranded Carlton in September 1999. As far as I was concerned, I was in rural Somerset, south west England, on the overlap between HTV West and Westcountry, therefore the ITV South West England franchise should be Westcountry. Carlton, to me, was the London weekday franchise, and Somerset is over a hundered miles from the centre of London.
I was at the head of the queue of outrage when Westcountry was rebranded aas Carlton in 1999. In retrospect though, it really was nothing more than a change of name.
At first, it made no difference at all. Later on, it meant certain things were rationalised (like removing Westcountry's own control over comissioning and scheduling and giving Central that responsibility), but even so, Westcountry (and Central) still ran as fairly autonomous locally run operations right up to 2004, and until October 2002 they both still had their own live, locally based continuity, whilst the majority of the network by then was shared.
Carlton may have taken the names away, but they still allowed a local TV station to operate on their own patch. Meanwhile, Granada may have allowed local names to live on, but they were locked into a policy of destroying everything which underpinned them.
Looking back now, Central and Westcountry were in far healthier shape between 1999 and 2002 than were Yorkshire, Tyne Tees, Granada, Border, Meridian, Anglia et al even though the latter still had their own names on idents whilst the former did not.
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A former member
well here the start of the Thread:
"My most disappointing moment was also at Carlton, because we didn't achieve what we would have hoped on the programming side. We did do some good shows: The Good Sex Guide and Hollywood Women were, in their own way, ground breaking. But that's not enough for the length of time we were on air."
and somehow It turned from a Question about how Carlton programmes are,
into a thread about how good Carlton Programmes are like
I do believe we will always go around when it comes to this topic, its nice to remember,
I just can;t think of anything that not been said a million times over about carlton of 1992 etc... maybe we shoudl get a gun and do an old yellow......
Quote:
"My most disappointing moment was also at Carlton, because we didn't achieve what we would have hoped on the programming side. We did do some good shows: The Good Sex Guide and Hollywood Women were, in their own way, ground breaking. But that's not enough for the length of time we were on air."
and somehow It turned from a Question about how Carlton programmes are,
into a thread about how good Carlton Programmes are like
I do believe we will always go around when it comes to this topic, its nice to remember,
I just can;t think of anything that not been said a million times over about carlton of 1992 etc... maybe we shoudl get a gun and do an old yellow......
RS
quote="Tumble Tower" re: CARLTON
"Calling All Real Londoners Turn Over Now "
That was the polite version...! The alternative and more widely used version was ' C--p All Round London Turn Off Now '
and yes, Tumble Tower,...there was a lot of flack flying in London about the loss of Thames in the local press , and on the radio stations. Don't think anyone really ever took to it. Thames was a London institution and had a real 'London' feel to it.....the name Carlton meant nothing to your average London viewer.
And the idents were excruciating!
"Calling All Real Londoners Turn Over Now "
That was the polite version...! The alternative and more widely used version was ' C--p All Round London Turn Off Now '
and yes, Tumble Tower,...there was a lot of flack flying in London about the loss of Thames in the local press , and on the radio stations. Don't think anyone really ever took to it. Thames was a London institution and had a real 'London' feel to it.....the name Carlton meant nothing to your average London viewer.
And the idents were excruciating!