Still of Capoeira ending

Perhaps odd to make a topic about an ident still that doesn't seem to exist in video, but anyway:

This shot below, listed as a still from the end of Capoeira:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Bbc1capoiera.jpg

It's known there are 2 versions of Capoeira - the Nations' version starts at the 'true' beginning and the ending has been seen by many on the BBC ONE site download.

The Network uses a version that starts later, therefore ending later. I assumed that this sequence would show the actual ending, replicating the shot above; but it seems not, and I'm now confused.

I don't have a video clip of the ending (turned over at 3:23am (just over 40 mins ago) and the ident started almost immediately; didn't have time to record!).

Instead of the pictured flying kick above, the actual ending shows the guy on the left performing a standing kick, that appears to hit the other performer in the face (or close to the face; his head turns away as the foot comes forward). The receiver of the kick is fine; IIRC in the last few frames they seem to acknowledge each other, post-performance.

So it seems there's a part of Capoeira we'll never get to see... I *think* the screen went black (leaving the BBC ONE logo) as it faded into the N24 sting, indicating it had played its full duration. If anyone did actually tape this, it could be checked.

It could have been done specially for the photo or be from a take of the filming session that wasn't used.

The prominence of St Pauls definitely isn't a co-incidence

Also that's not a capture as the BBC One logo is far too small. No doubt its just a photo taken for publicity rather than a still from film. That would explain why you never see a video version.

Said shot was probably from an alternate take, chosen because it looked good as a still photo! Presumably someone wanted the dancers to be seen in the best light ahead of the initial TX (For example, I doubt a still of Salsa would've looked very exciting....)

Re: last night's whole ident, A pity they handed over to N24 a couple of minutes earlier than anticipated; would've been nice to be able to play back a recording of the whole sequence (no-one else seems to have a video; was I the only one here who saw it? ); it's not often these days you get an ident of 40 seconds length in its entirety, but then, Lydiate did have plenty to say alongside the oft-used "familiar London skyline" reference; most importantly, Her Majesty's 80th.

I'm pretty certain that image was a publicity shot used in a lot of newspapers and trade press at the time of the launch of the dancer idents.

I imagine therefore it's a photograph so it could be reproduced at print quality, rather than anything taken off the VT.

It's possible I suppose that it *could* be taken from the same sequence we see on TV, but just taken from a different angle.

In Scotland I'm pretty sure the ident starts later (so it cuts London) and therefore finishes later than the English version. I've not seen Capoeira for a while right enough so I could be wrong.

Last time I saw it on BBC ONE Scotland was on April 1st; started at the same early point as the other Nations, but that particular playout glitched! It was just the first frame alternating between still, black screen, and aliased still - I thought someone was playing an April Fool's joke!

I've wondered the same thing before but after reading comments on here I believe that it has to be a special publicity photo. If one looks at the positioning of St Paul's Cathedral and then watch the 34second clip of Capoeira (from either TV-Ark or the TV Room) then it can be seen that there is a different action to that of the photo when St Paul's Cathedral is in the correct position for both the photo and the video.
I, however, did get the impression that the ident would do a full circle of the building and then that would be the end, though, as has been seen, this is not the case as the duration would be well over a minute and the audio only lasts for 40 seconds.
Shame there was no capture, but good that Dean Lydiate is still giving us his long playouts. Hopefully something similar will happen on BBC Two with idents such as Invisible Walls and Self Portrait.

Good point - I commend your observational skills.



A shame indeed; I've learnt my lesson! Even though I did see it when it was broadcast, nothing beats a capture and I'm slightly annoyed at myself. Never again will I wait less than 4 minutes to check a scheduled closedown or handover...



IMO, Dean would be the only announcer to give noteworthy contributions if it wasn't for Becky Wright!

IIRC Self Portrait Long has been shown practically full on Network, and the short version shown in full once on NI (of which I may have a video). Invisible Walls always seems to 'hit the wall' (pun somewhat intended) at around 23 - 24 seconds max, and has never gone beyond that. The most recent playout of the ident with Dean on the mike was about 22 seconds in length.

Here's to hoping either that, or the fairly elusive Drum, finally gets an extended play in the mornings (although it seems to me like the late night Ceefax of old saw better junctions than the current trend of 6am breaks).