"Busy Buses" is STOLEN work -NURSERIES *BAN*

so now in light of the above facts - has anyone got any constructive comments ?

One constructive comment from me:

You will get nowhere fast by posting again and again on this forum. By posting here, you will only irritate people and make them more inclined not to support your cause. There are no insiders on this forum that will suddenly leap into action and withdraw Busy Buses from the TV screens and shop shelves and arrive at your friend's door with a cheque. You've made your position known, you've made your website known, now let people make up their own minds and decide how/if they want to help.

Here's what I can't understand. Clearly, ACT7, you (or your "friend") has clearly put a lot of thought into the website defending the Busy Buses intellectual property. Moreover, you have spent a good deal of time responding to issues on this forum. My question is this: For all this talk, there has been exactly zero action. With the website, and the posts on the forum, and so on and so forth, what precisely do you want to accomplish?

If you goal is to rouse this grassroots movement of dozens (perhaps hundreds) of people to crusade with you on your campaign against the BBC, then I think (speaking objectively) that you will be sorely disappointed. What does the BBC or UKTV care if it loses a few hundred viewers, at the most? Not a whole lot. Yes, they do have a public service responsibility, but as a producer of television material, you must understand that the traditional "public service" rules may not necessarily apply. Are those people going to pool funds for a lawyer and lawsuit? Somehow I think not.

I know you've gotten some press, and I think that would have been your best bet to find a lawyer who would work on your case pro bono ... but if that hasn't happened yet, and you yourself have said that it's too expensive otherwise ... there's little other option you have but to accept it.

Sure, you could sit and stew over the inequity of it all, but what good does that do?

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Since it takes a hell of a lot of money to take a company to court over a civil matter, and legal aid for such a case is not available - and there's still no guarantee that you'd win - there's no point persuing it legally.

This guy's friend may as well give in as the website and publicity aren't going to add anything to the "campaign", and the companies involved aren't likely to take a blind bit of notice now that they've made the series, distributed it and milked the merchandise for all they can.

many thanks for your opinions

we certainly were not looking for "insiders" - lol

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"For all this talk, there has been exactly zero action. With the website, and the posts on the forum, and so on and so forth, what precisely do you want to accomplish? "

i agree a few 1000 people will not make that much difference to big media - which brings me to the answer to your question - yep we could just "sit back & accept it" - but we wont simply because we believe this type of thing occours way too often & someone sometime has to do something about it else more & more people will suffer (also i think the real upset it causes has to be experienced as my friend wrote the bus series for his grandchildren)

thats just problem with us British - we always just accept - thats why the country is in such a mess - we shall not rest until this "loophole" in the law is sealed & more innocent people are affected - thats what we will achieve

there has not been "zero" action - behind all this many many things have been occouring & we can only do what we think is right is this situation - we are not "activists" - we simply want to stop rich media stealing from the poor

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"find a lawyer who would work on your case pro bono"

as far as i am aware on Copyright there simply is no such entity - we have tried & tried to no avail

again it's the "give in" attitude - how do we put things right if we all just sit back & accept ?

meanwhile the big media have a field day with other peoples HARD work - it has to change

unless anyone thinks it is actually "right" or "acceptable" to allow it to continue ?

Having read this whole thread ,and visiting your website i think you do have a point. I mean it is wrong , and i dont think we should have to accept situations like these, like you say, it could happen to anyone,and if what you say is correct i think you are right to do something about it.
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why have that company let you advertise their dvd's ?surely thats not legal

Yes, this is all very well and good, but HOW are you going to do this?

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Have you tried getting some press coverage?

To be honest, the idea of busy buses is hardly original, whoever had it. As mentioned earlier, the whole notion of drawing a face on an item of public transport and assigning to it a quirky character is just a rip-off of Thomas the Tank Engine in the first place and there have been several derivatives in this genre already - including Fergie's Budgie the Helicopter and, I think, something similar involving tugs and boats.

Nothing's really new, you're only hope would be if your idea was so startlingly original that it would be unlikely that someone else would have the same idea independently.

I've had this idea!

What if we drew a face on the front of a hot London bus and then put it in some tight underwear?

Oh really Nick. Your creativity is at an all time low.

many thanks for your opinions

& thanks to "tvcritic" who actually to my suprise signed the petition

the Dvd's on our website are not legal - but they dont actually exist in reality (bluff) - we are just trying to promt the companies involved to do something - which kind of leads on to all your questions apart from the "tight underware" idea - lol

HOW ?

ok - agreed it's nothing new - but i know my mate has been ripped off - PERIOD

Re: Press -as i explained earlier - the Nationals are "aware" of the situation BUT all my contacts have told me the same thing - "it cannot be reported on until proceedings are actually in place else we risk libel" (though one local London paper did report - i've since been told this is due to some keen reporters wishing to take risks to futher their careers & they also have less to loose)

we have several press contacts at national level & they will report when something happens but seeing as Chatsworth TV & Flicks Films (the copiers) are letting us get away with murder around the internet & on our website because they do not want this reporting (which in my mind means they have something to hide & they do have - belive me) so the obvious thing to do is to create so many problems for them that they HAVE to take action against us - then the press will report - which is the VERY LAST thing those companies want becuase to be honest they are guilty as hell & we have enough proof to prove the following item of Copyright law .....

"Copyright law is quite explicit that the making of what are called "derivative works" - works based or derived from another copyrighted work - is the exclusive province of the owner of the original work. This is true even though the making of these new works is a highly creative process. If you write a story using settings or characters from somebody else's work, you need that author's permission."

"derivative works" being the key here

so HOW ?

we are willing to go as far as necessary until they take action against us - a totally ridiculous situation i know

if we have to copy Flicks Films or Chatsworth TV's (the copiers) websites all over the internet - then we will
(Living TV simply "screen" the program) - we will post on our website deliberate slanderous items about the main individuals concerned & if that does'nt work we will go as far as is necessary to FORCE them to take action BEFORE they become the laughing stock of the media (which so i've been told they already are)

we already have got away with murder so far & they do NOTHING - & the reason is pretty obvious

so the next stage is to push them even further until at some point they HAVE to take action against us WHICH IS THE LAST THING THEY WANT TO HAPPEN as they know the press will jump on it & THE TRUTH WILL EMERGE

so i guess in nutshell - to change the law or to see justice - sometimes you have to break the law to do so - a sad but true fact in this country

our main concern is simply the principle & to stop other people being "ripped off" in the future

the funny thing is - I KNOW THEY KNOW EVRYTHING WE HAVE DONE SO FAR - yet they do nothing

they could sue us many times over for our website content - but they do nothing even though we have ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST US

so i guess you can make up your own minds as to why exactly these companies would tolerate our behavior to date with no action ...

Oh my God, another humourphobic!

Danger - low flying jokes - don't look up - they might just drop lumps of poo in your eye!