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(July 2001)

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tvyvr4derek Founding member
BUGBOY posted:
My point was if anyone is takling about an Non BBC channel than they should call it a bug and for BBC channels a Dog (althgough i suspect most people in the beeb call them bug as well from my dealings with them)

Whoa. In that case, 625 TV Room and Planet Bods TV Centre will need a lot of updating.
(My personal preference is 'bug'. I'm more used to that.)
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Now we could go down the Astons, Supers,  Chyron, route...but lets not go there.

While we're on that, I might as well introduce the term 'lower-third,' but yeah, let's not get into that. It's fine to have another set of terminology as long as we know what each other's talking about.
TP
Techy Peep Founding member
The Beeb use the terms DOGs & DINGOs because that's what they grew up with... Like CSO. The BBC invented it, but outside the Corporation people call it all sorts of names, one of them being ChromaKey or just Chroma.

Oh and some information for people, especially the very rude bugboy...
A DOG is a monochrome key (not the animating globe. I assume that's what you meant by goble!)
A DINGO is a key with colour infill

(Edited by techy peep at 1:49 am on July 13, 2001)
CB
CBC News Edmonton
So that's what the ones that are filled in with color are called...

AFATTIC... (As far as the terminology is concerned  Very Happy)

Does it really matter now does it mr. Bugboy. It's not like C4 or ITV or the others live in a parallel universe and wouldn't know the term DOG other than a creature that marks its territory using unorthodox methods. Astons, Chyrons, etc... they're all the same. The BBC just calls it with a different name... Tomaaaaato - Tomaaahhhto... it's all the same. Just don't be rude about it. Smile

(Edited by cbc news edmonton at 8:41 pm on July 12, 2001)
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alekf
CBC News guy, I have a question, I was in Montréal a few weeks ago and I was always under the impression that the CBC didn't have commercials -- but they did? So is it both publicly and commercially supported? Thanks. Oh, and, from what I saw of CTV, is sucks.
CB
CBC News Edmonton
alekf posted:
CBC News guy, I have a question, I was in Montréal a few weeks ago and I was always under the impression that the CBC didn't have commercials -- but they did?  So is it both publicly and commercially supported?  Thanks.  Oh, and, from what I saw of CTV, is sucks.


The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) acts like any other network in the United States and Canada. The difference is that the CBC gets MOST of its funding (and i emphasize MOST) from the Canadian government, more specifically from the Heritage department or whatever it's called.

CBC operates two terrestrial networks (CBC - English and SRC - French), two 24 hour news and current affairs channels (Newsworld - English and RDI - French), four radio networks (Radio One, Radio Two, Premiere Chaine, Chaine Culturalle), a shortwave Radio service (Radio Canada international), and a newschannel similar to BBC World (Newsworld Int'l).

CBC Television and SRC are made up of both owned and operated stations, which carry the entire network schedule; and affiliates which must carry a minimum of 40 hours a week of network programming. These networks are supported by the government and commercial airtime. While Newsworld and RDI are self sufficient.

The four radio networks have no commercials in them.

This is too much of the CBC, I know. But I guess all this information was necessary to completely understand how this network goes.

And as far as CTV goes, it's my favorite network because they allow regional identities to exist... unlike Global *shudder*... it's like Carlton TV here in the UK.
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alekf
Personally I can't stand regional identity. I wish there was some national identity here in the states, but there really isn't.

Thanks for the info on the CBC (btw, is it THE CBC or just CBC)

And I think you can get Newsworld International on DirecTV here in the States.
CB
CBC News Edmonton
alekf posted:
Personally I can't stand regional identity.  I wish there was some national identity here in the states, but there really isn't.

Thanks for the info on the CBC (btw, is it THE CBC or just CBC)

And I think you can get Newsworld International on DirecTV here in the States.


Depends on who you are really... The network identifies itself as 'CBC' because it thinks like a network, like CTV or Global. Other people refer it as 'The CBC' because it's a Canadian institution.

Why is there so much regional identity with the local stations in the states? You look at them for their face value, and you can't tell which network they belong to other than the obscure logo below the channel number.

If you wanna know more info about the Canadian networks, don't hesitate to e-mail me at manny-g@alberta.com, or the other Canadian here in the form - tvyvr4derek. I'm sure he can offer you insight on the subject. Cheers!

(Edited by cbc news edmonton at 9:32 pm on July 12, 2001)


(Edited by cbc news edmonton at 9:32 pm on July 12, 2001)
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itsrobert Founding member
Please be carefu with this post. Don't launch any personal attacks on other members and please don't be rude! I think we should all familiarize ourselves with the rules by clicking 'register'.
CB
CBC News Edmonton
sorry itsrobert. i was kinda part of it, and i apologize for my contribution to it. :S
PE
Pete Founding member
Well, I'm gonna carry on calling them DOGS, if that's all right with 'Bugboy' </sarcasm mode> since that is quite clearly an acronym, and I can't think why they would be called Bugs.
TP
Techy Peep Founding member
The reason people call them Bugs is because to generate these curious little creatures requires the programming of a EEPROM. Some folk like to call these chips (and others) bugs, because of the legs attached.

There are devices called 'Bug Burners' (!!) which carry out this programming.

Hence it's name has stuck outside of the Beeb. The Beeb like it's acronyms! Another one is TARIF. I can't remember what it stands for exactly but it refers to colouring of film where someone will sit through a whole film with two joysticks which control colour and brightness, and make it look natural. Other people call this Grading.

I personally like things where the title descibes what it is meant to do...
'DOGs... It Does What It Says On The Tin!' Smile


(Edited by techy peep at 10:46 am on July 13, 2001)
TP
Techy Peep Founding member
I have just remembered what TARIF stands for...

Technical
Apparatus for the
Rectification of
Inferior
Film

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