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jay1,811 posts since 23 Mar 2001
Hi guys

Heard a debate on 106 Century FM today about the closure of Lenton Lane Studios in Nottingham and Central News East moving to Birmingham. They have set up a website about this - Not From Brum!
If you want to register your support for Nottingham then visit the site and have a gander
www.notfrombrum.org.uk
MrStrawsonsSheep252 posts since 5 May 2004
Thnx for the link - this is an impressive site!

I'd argue that this is just the sort of issue that should be in the OfCom PSBR. I know, don't hold your breath! But, surly whilst some functions could be bought in from anywhere, the presenters and the subs have got to work from within the region. How else would they assimilate the feelings within an area, without drinking in it.
Colm (previously Col) 3,488 posts since 6 Jan 2003
Aah, I wrote an assignment for college on the NotFromBrum campaign...

I'm not sure how the Early Day Motion discussed in Parliament has progressed, the last I heard Michael Howard had given the campaign his support. Bit of a turnaround for the Tory leader to care about ITV's regional remit...
MrStrawsonsSheep252 posts since 5 May 2004
Col posted:
the last I heard Michael Howard had given the campaign his support. Bit of a turnaround for the Tory leader to care about ITV's regional remit...


He's a Kent MP, in what has in the past been considered a Liberal-Democrat target seat (Folkstone and Hythe). Along with the other parties, top Kent Tories including Howard and Sandy Bruce-Lockhart are all objecting to the downgrading of Meridian's New Hythe operation.

There are two Early Day Motions - EDM830, a general objection to ITV's regional decampment (started by Frank Doran - Aberdeen, and Austin Mitchell - Grimsby). Also, there's EDM650 more specific to Central News East, with almost universal regional E Mids support.

Howard has signed neither, but then there's a convention that EDMs are back-bencers territory.

http://edm.ais.co.uk/weblink/html/motion.html/ref=830
http://edm.ais.co.uk/weblink/html/motion.html/ref=650
A former member
MrStrawsonsSheep posted:

There are two Early Day Motions - EDM830, a general objection to ITV's regional decampment (started by Frank Doran - Aberdeen, and Austin Mitchell - Grimsby). Also, there's EDM650 more specific to Central News East, with almost universal regional E Mids support.


Thanks. Its often quite a good idea to write to our own MP, asking if they would sign a particular EDM. Its a way of showing that there is support for an issue. As Mr Sheep said though, front benchers tend not to play this game.
Spencer For Hire5,866 posts since 13 Jan 2003
MrStrawsonsSheep posted:
There are two Early Day Motions - EDM830, a general objection to ITV's regional decampment (started by Frank Doran - Aberdeen, and Austin Mitchell - Grimsby).


Good old Austin! Once a regional news reporter, always a regional news reporter!!

Oh, and when did he change his surname back from Haddock?
Jack Carkdale481 posts since 23 Apr 2004
Meridian News (Thames Vallley) comes from Southampton studios, which is outside its region. But they do have a newsroom within the region - in Newbury.

If CNeast retains some sort of token newsroom facility in Nottingham, that should be fine, as far as I can see.

And, actually, even if they don't retain any Nottingham presence, I'm still inclined to say "so what?". After all, cameras and reporters will still be travelling to east midlands places to make the reports.

As long as a regional news programme's content is true to the region, the studio-based part of the show - which (let's face it) is really just "linking material", and theefore just the icing on the cake - could be based on the moon, for all the difference it makes!

I'm expecting a huge backlash now.
tvarksouthwest4,098 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Where the presenters are is one thing, but if reporters have to travel in from Birmingham that will significantly eat into shooting time. As a result fewer reports or the quality of location items compromised. I could be wrong of course - they probably send reports up the line from a laptop nowadays but if they can't, the East will be set back 20 years.
A former member
tvarksouthwest posted:
Where the presenters are is one thing, but if reporters have to travel in from Birmingham........... It could be wrong of course - they probably send reports up the line from a laptop nowadays but if they can't, the East will be set back 20 years.


20 years sounds about right.

Isn't ITV's plan to have the reporters in the patch sending back to a regional centre where several sub-regions news output is assembled? Some of this will be sent as completed edited packages.

I'd argue that the main quality impediment is going to be management contact with the area, in particular this means the sub-editors.

The relevance of where the presenter is, surly is dependent on what sort of presenter you have. A journalistic style of presentation is going to require a figure who takes an editorial position within the production, knows the reporters, and knows the area. Surly this knowledge will in part come about by assimilating the little bits of coded information that will only come about through social and professional contact with the main subjects, ie by living and working in the area.
MrStrawsonsSheep252 posts since 5 May 2004
JDK posted:

I'd argue that the main quality impediment is going to be management contact with the area, in particular this means the sub-editors.


I'd agree. Even with the highest professional standards, its difficult to see how this could be accomplished without some cost to overall quality.

The BBC appear to see the evening regional news as part of the evening's audience build. ITV mow clearly see the evening regionals only as an obligation, and rely on Corrie and Emmerdale to do the build.

To my mind - that IS an issue of regulation!
CrusadeforCentral78 posts since 1 Mar 2004
I agree, ITV only does regional programmes because it has to!!

The BBC are pushing regional TV more now and will probably take over the regional committment that ITV clearly doesn't want or care about.

It just goes to show how much ITV wants to get rid of its regional broadcasting commitments when they can't even promote the Central name properly.

The endcaps say ITV Central, whereas Granada, Yorkshire, LWT etc still use their own logos, The Central buildings still say Carlton, The continuity annoucers either say "this is ITV1" or "This is Carlton Television for Central England" or "This is Carlton Television", and the idents say "ITV1 for Central England"

What is wrong with ITV1 Central?