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Sir Bruce Forsyth RIP

Entertainer dies at 89. Tribute on BBC ONE at 7pm 18 Aug 2017 (August 2017)

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SW
Steve Williams
Bruce's original generation game was the first instance I became aware of the 'isocam' recording technique - recording one camera more or less permanently on a particular presenter throughout a recording to allow for a 'better' edit in an unpredictable studio environment. Pretty much a standard technique nowadays of course.


Someone mentioned on The Mausoleum Club that they once decided to do that for The Laughter Show and have a camera continually filming a wide shot of the stage to make it easier to edit. And when they finished the recording they realised they were recording it straight to the mastertape and it was the only thing that had come out.

There was also a UKTV series Brucie's Generation Game - basically a clip show but did feature a conveyor belt finale.


Yes, the Gen Game Now and Then, they did a couple of series like that at the time, including Wogan and J*m'll F*x *t. As you say, it was mostly clips but they played a few games and a former contestant did the conveyor belt at the end. I remember one of them was because when they were on the original series they couldn't use the conveyor belt for some reason so they had to just look at the prizes on shelves instead. There was also another clip they used when the belt was broken so the crew members and Brucie had to walk past holding the prizes. Would love to see those again.

It was a five part series, but the fifth part was highlights of the first four, which seemed a bit of a cheat.
AN
Andrew Founding member
One thing about the weekend on Challenge was as it was short notice they didn't have chance to put any ECPs over the credits, so they were all played in full.

The PYCR were from that LWT(P) era in the 90s and the PIR were from 2001 with the smokey hearts credits and a large space where at the time they would have been advertising Coronation Street.

One notable thing about Brucie with the contestants was that they never went too far out of line, Bruce was always 'in charge', if someone came on down and was a bit too bubbly, he'd allow them a few seconds before moving on. These days bubbly contestants often have free rein and get annoying.
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NT
Night Thoughts
DE88 posted:

Of course, the original PYCR had that brilliant kaleidoscopic title sequence designed by Lambie-Nairn. And it was great fun, too, when the end game finished early and Bruce used up the spare minutes handing out fivers to the audience members.

And the very end of every episode, where as the credits rolled he'd walk off the set, one final wave to the audience and the viewers as he did so... magnificent.


Wasn't there an overseas version of PYCR which used (or stole?) those titles? I dimly remembering it appearing on a programme many years ago...

It's probably an age thing, but for me, the Price Is Right will always be Leslie Crowther bellowing "COME ON DOWN!" Brucie doing it just seemed a little bit wrong.
VM
VMPhil
One thing about the weekend on Challenge was as it was short notice they didn't have chance to put any ECPs over the credits, so they were all played in full.

The PYCR were from that LWT(P) era in the 90s and the PIR were from 2001 with the smokey hearts credits and a large space where at the time they would have been advertising Coronation Street.

One notable thing about Brucie with the contestants was that they never went too far out of line, Bruce was always 'in charge', if someone came on down and was a bit too bubbly, he'd allow them a few seconds before moving on. These days bubbly contestants often have free rein and get annoying.

They were showing widescreen episodes of Price is Right, which allows me to bring up the geeky point that they used the same opening titles they'd been using since series 2 when they went widescreen, so must have had to go back to the original design company that made them and re-render them in 16:9.
SI
simpfeld

I expect Bruce's work was near the top of the pile to be digitised, and so it's all instantly available to editors. Sadly the BBC's effort to digitise their entire archive was wound up (see the TV Studio history website). Everything else is on videotape with a bit of film -- with a limited lifespan.


Though all the D3 transfers, and the later 1" transfers, will have an uncompressed LTO data tape copy (component but decoded through the best-in-class Transform PAL decoder, which is reversible should a better PAL decode technique be developed) LTO is a commodity 'IT' tape standard - suitable for migration to future digital standards using automated robot tape-handlers.

I've that there's more material on D3 than serviceable head hours to play it back - so it can't be a case of 'digitise everything'; they're having to be selective.


I tried to find the latest status of the D3 transfer project on the TV Studio history website, but couldn't see anything. And googling seems to return very few hits from the last few years (after about 2014).

Anyone know if they have a new plan to deal with these tapes, given the available headtime for D3 is known limited?
GE
thegeek Founding member
I think hardly anyone remembers Brucie did You Bet, everyone only remembers Matthew Kelly.

I don't remember that at all! Was it on across network, or did STV not pick it up until later?
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A former member
What? it was fully networked.
TI
tightrope78
Been thinking about this the past few days. Was Children in Need 2015 the final television appearances of both Terry Wogan and Bruce Forsyth? I know Terry didn't do the live show but there was new filmed inserts.
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A former member
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DJ
DJGM

It's probably an age thing, but for me, the Price Is Right will always be Leslie Crowther
bellowing "COME ON DOWN!" Brucie doing it just seemed a little bit wrong.


The Brucie version of the Price Is Right always had Peter Dickson doing the "COME ON DOWN!" before Peter Dickson started to become a bit of a parody of himself with the OTT voiceovers he does on X Factor, BGT and certain TV ads.
LL
Larry the Loafer
Been thinking about this the past few days. Was Children in Need 2015 the final television appearances of both Terry Wogan and Bruce Forsyth? I know Terry didn't do the live show but there was new filmed inserts.


Wasn't it technically his video message on the Strictly Christmas special the following month?
JA
james-2001
but it did lead to a great catchphrase I was reminded of today, "You go home with nothing but happy memories... of me!"


I know it's OT, but I'm imagining Jimmy Savile saying that.

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