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KM
Kevizz MS
House posted:
Re: Smart glass

I don't know what the limitations are, so if it would be practically or economically possible, but does no-one else think using smart glass for the Studio E (looking on to the newsroom) would be great, as a way of creating a real-life N6 (set)?


The renders have the same standalone panels as seen in the above photograph, so it won't be integrated into the window wall. As it's next to a noisy newsroom I assume it's insulated glazing, so perhaps the smart glass technology couldn't applied to it.
PE
Pete Founding member
I hope it's not too insulated. It was noticeable when they moved form N8 to N6 that the news suddenly became deathly quiet. Even a bit of piped in chatter would help give a bit more atmosphere.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
House posted:
Edit: Also, anyone know what kind of screen that is at the back? The one with the view of London on it. I'm assuming it's a screen, not a lightbox, as that surely wouldn't be practical? But looking at that photo it would be too big to be a plasma, and doesn't appear to be BARCOs?


Possibly the same kind of technology Sport had in TC5?
ST
Stuart
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Possibly the same kind of technology Sport had in TC5?

Wasn't that 'front-projectors' which took up considerable space between the raised seating area and the screens?
MD
mdtauk
Pete posted:
I hope it's not too insulated. It was noticeable when they moved form N8 to N6 that the news suddenly became deathly quiet. Even a bit of piped in chatter would help give a bit more atmosphere.


I doubt they will pipe in sound, the sound director would not be happy. But we will see the newsroom so that will be an improvement. Also hopefully they will be a bit more imaginative with how they present information to us.
MD
mdtauk
Quote:
November 2011
BBC News lower thirds
Idonix provide consultancy and training to the BBC in the development of a new suite of HD lower thirds graphics for their core news services. Using their Viz scripting skills, Idonix deliver robust transition logic to choreograph straps, tickers and dogs, and to manage the multitude of styles required by the BBC's news and current affairs programming.
AC
aconnell
360 degree panorama of Breakfast/NWT studio.

http://360.io/Jvqv2T
BR
Brekkie
mdtauk posted:
Quote:
November 2011
BBC News lower thirds
Idonix provide consultancy and training to the BBC in the development of a new suite of HD lower thirds graphics for their core news services. Using their Viz scripting skills, Idonix deliver robust transition logic to choreograph straps, tickers and dogs, and to manage the multitude of styles required by the BBC's news and current affairs programming.

Although I'm doubting it'll go far beyond black text on a solid white background. BBC lower thirds have been pretty appalling since 1999 really - the only ones I thought looked half decent were on Newyddion in 1999 and for the swirls period on News 24.
AC
aconnell


These were pretty nice. The animations and the shiny look really remind me of the BBC Arabic look pre-Lambie Nairn, which most people praised for their uniqueness and aesthetics.

I really hope they indulge more too. After all, it is HD.
EO
eoin
Brekkie posted:
Although I'm doubting it'll go far beyond black text on a solid white background. BBC lower thirds have been pretty appalling since 1999 really - the only ones I thought looked half decent were on Newyddion in 1999 and for the swirls period on News 24.

I have seen you make this point countless times. Saying it over and over again will not make it right, even if you go as far as using words like 'appalling'. Has it never occurred to you that there are good reasons for the BBC to have plain graphics?

By swimming against the tide of fussy, gradient-covered, over-designed graphics the BBC achieved something quite unique. The 1999 plain straps contrasted starkly with what was around at the time. And, like so many elements of that 1999 design, others followed and plain straps are quite widespread now. The current look is a continuation of that quintessentially BBC look and feel.

You also seem to be entirely ignoring the fact that the current package actually has some quite nice transition effects, which should go some way towards satisfying your hunger for unnecessary flashness.
BK
bkman1990
aconnell posted:
360 degree panorama of Breakfast/NWT studio.

http://360.io/Jvqv2T


Lovely studio pic. The colour of the set is quite nice.
NG
noggin Founding member
Stuart posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Possibly the same kind of technology Sport had in TC5?

Wasn't that 'front-projectors' which took up considerable space between the raised seating area and the screens?


There are two elements to screen technology these days.

1. The display - which can be front projection (as Sport used in TC5), rear projection (as BBC News used until the Barco cubes), rear projection cubes (as BBC News now use), LED wall (as Sky use for their News Wall)

2. The screen controller - which allows the larger than standard display canvas to be filled flexibly - which requires more than just a standard vision mixer usually. BBC News use a system from Electrosonic currently, BBC Sport used Spyder in TC5, other people use Encore.

So BBC Sport used Front projectors (from Christie I believe) and a Spyder screen controller. What BBC News use in BH will be interesting to see.

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