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(September 2010)

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MA
manclad
House posted:
Lee M posted:
Am I right in thinking that 'The One Show' comes from White City? or one of the surrounding buildings? If so, where will that come from in the near future?


For any other show, you would say that it would be moved to Salford, but The One Show needs to be in London because otherwise they wouldn't be able to get high profile guests as much (a problem Breakfast will soon start to encounter). It could be a while before they need to do anything anyway, but there is always one of the new News studios at Broadcasting House, though none of them will have quite the view that the current position at White City does.



With what justification you base your ideology that no high profile guests will go to Salford/Manchester?

Is not already a fact that many professors they talk to come from the north west region?

Is not already a fact that many high-profile politicians are north west based?

Is not already a fact that Granada NEVER had a problem in getting guests to Manchester, or even Liverpool?


Frankly most of the studio-based guests (crucial for its format) on The One Show are in London to promote whatever it is they're promoting. It wouldn't be impossible to get guests to Manchester, but it would certainly be harder to get the guests they want.

To take a random selection of guests they've had of late:
Arrow A film star probably in London for a day or two to promote the film around the premiere
Arrow A London-based newsreader
Arrow A London-based Eastenders actress
Arrow A celebrity author living in London

The likelihood of the programme achieving a line-up of similar calibre if they were based in Salford, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff or anywhere significantly outside the capital is fairly low. And it's all well and good for certain posters on here to take a 'If they can't be bothered to travel to Salford to promote their book then their loss' would be fine if the sole purpose of a programme like Breakfast or The One Show was to enable these people to promote their books - but it's not. The main purpose is to provide audiences with useful, interesting and entertaining interviews, conversations and information. So the decision should be made on how the BBC can provide the service that is expected at a reasonable cost, and not based on politics.


I'll grant you the movie star would be harder to attract to Manchester. But a London based newsreader is hardly celeb material and a similarly interesting (or boring as the case may be) replacement can be found in Manchester. Manchester is also home to the Worlds longest soap so the Eastenders actress isn't a biggy and shock horror, we have authors in Manchester too. Now don't take this as being an example of Civic pride. Whilst I am incredibly proud of Manchester, I'm a Yorkshire lad born and bred but it is annoying to hear pessimism about the BBC move to the Quays. Yes, I am the first to accept that some guests might be harder to attract but some posters make out that anywhere North of London is baron waste land. Has any of you been to Manchester recently?

And lets be honest, the really famous stars.......I mean really famous A listers aren't often on the sofa regardless of programme are they? They tend to be in a room with a generic "film name" back ground being interviewed by people on a conveyor belt system.
IS
Inspector Sands
Indeed, the This Morning thing was codswallop.

This Morning moved to London because of two factors; firstly, Granada were only in Liverpool anyway to help secure its franchise renewal in 1991 and secondly, they bought out LWT in 1994 and wanted to make the most of their newly-aquired, purpose-built London studios. Of course, Granada couldn't be honest and just come out with any of that so said some daft crap about Tom Cruise not wanting to venture north of the M25.

I heard Richard Madely being interviewed the other week and this came up, the main reason was because Richard and Judy decided they were going to quit. The management came up with moving to London as a way of doing something new, freshening the programme and keeping them on board.

However they were having problems towards the end as the plane service they used to get guests from London to Liverpool stopped
IS
Inspector Sands
Am I right in thinking that 'The One Show' comes from White City? or one of the surrounding buildings? If so, where will that come from in the near future?

It could go anywhere. If they wanted to keep the window then some of the views from BH are nice (look at the one that BBC Persia have, or they could rent space somewhere and use that.
HO
House
House posted:
Frankly most of the studio-based guests (crucial for its format) on The One Show are in London to promote whatever it is they're promoting. It wouldn't be impossible to get guests to Manchester, but it would certainly be harder to get the guests they want.

To take a random selection of guests they've had of late:
Arrow A film star probably in London for a day or two to promote the film around the premiere
Arrow A London-based newsreader
Arrow A London-based Eastenders actress
Arrow A celebrity author living in London

The likelihood of the programme achieving a line-up of similar calibre if they were based in Salford, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff or anywhere significantly outside the capital is fairly low. And it's all well and good for certain posters on here to take a 'If they can't be bothered to travel to Salford to promote their book then their loss' would be fine if the sole purpose of a programme like Breakfast or The One Show was to enable these people to promote their books - but it's not. The main purpose is to provide audiences with useful, interesting and entertaining interviews, conversations and information. So the decision should be made on how the BBC can provide the service that is expected at a reasonable cost, and not based on politics.


I'll grant you the movie star would be harder to attract to Manchester. But a London based newsreader is hardly celeb material and a similarly interesting (or boring as the case may be) replacement can be found in Manchester. Manchester is also home to the Worlds longest soap so the Eastenders actress isn't a biggy and shock horror, we have authors in Manchester too. Now don't take this as being an example of Civic pride. Whilst I am incredibly proud of Manchester, I'm a Yorkshire lad born and bred but it is annoying to hear pessimism about the BBC move to the Quays. Yes, I am the first to accept that some guests might be harder to attract but some posters make out that anywhere North of London is baron waste land. Has any of you been to Manchester recently?

And lets be honest, the really famous stars.......I mean really famous A listers aren't often on the sofa regardless of programme are they? They tend to be in a room with a generic "film name" back ground being interviewed by people on a conveyor belt system.


But at that point I'd argue it was a problem with the programme, not the location. If you're saying The One Show or Breakfast isn't getting good guests in London - a newsreader, for example, who's pretty boring - then I'd say that was a problem with The One Show's format and guest bookers.

For the record I live in North Yorkshire, so I'm hardly London-centric. But I'd find the idea of moving any BBC programme to York, Middlesbrough or Newcastle simply because they can a mad idea, particularly if it could lead to lesser quality programming.
BR
Brekkie
I suspect in some cases it's quicker to fly up to Manchester than journey across London. I think the bigger problem the BBC will have is that they'll likely end up covering travel expenses for guests travelling up from London, which they'll then get slated for even though their move up to Salford has pretty much been enforced upon them.
DE
deejay
Sorry if someone has already posted this, but here's how Radio Manchester marked the transition this morning from New BH Oxford Road to Salford Quays:
http://soundcloud.com/popcornography/salford-switchover-rot
NW
nwtv2003
Sorry if someone has already posted this, but here's how Radio Manchester marked the transition this morning from New BH Oxford Road to Salford Quays:
http://soundcloud.com/popcornography/salford-switchover-rot


I saw this mentioned on the NWT page on Facebook earlier so chance being it may get a mention on NWT later on, not listened to Radio Manchester for a while (taking off Beswick at lunchtime lost me) so I didn't realise it moved today. From what it sounds like Andy Crane was the first live voice for RM from Salford. Do they still utilise the NWT presenters for the weather? As surely this might cause problems until NWT moves next month.

What's left at Oxford Road now?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Why would it cause problems? There will be facilities for the weather presenters to appear on Radio Merseyside down the line that could be used.
MO
Moz
Am I right in thinking that 'The One Show' comes from White City? or one of the surrounding buildings? If so, where will that come from in the near future?

It could go anywhere. If they wanted to keep the window then some of the views from BH are nice (look at the one that BBC Persia have, or they could rent space somewhere and use that.

Or it could share with the new Radio 1 Live Lounge with a view out onto the World Plaza.
MK
Mr Kite
Indeed, the This Morning thing was codswallop.

This Morning moved to London because of two factors; firstly, Granada were only in Liverpool anyway to help secure its franchise renewal in 1991 and secondly, they bought out LWT in 1994 and wanted to make the most of their newly-aquired, purpose-built London studios. Of course, Granada couldn't be honest and just come out with any of that so said some daft crap about Tom Cruise not wanting to venture north of the M25.

I heard Richard Madely being interviewed the other week and this came up, the main reason was because Richard and Judy decided they were going to quit. The management came up with moving to London as a way of doing something new, freshening the programme and keeping them on board.

However they were having problems towards the end as the plane service they used to get guests from London to Liverpool stopped


First I've ever heard of that. Wow, if it's true. So, Richard & Judy wanted to quit, I take it, to live down south anyway, so Granada moved the programme? Still, even if it's true, it was a convenient excuse for Granada, who were only in Liverpool as an act of tokenism anyhow. Even without Richard & Judy, it'd have moved, at least, to Manchester, by 2000, like the news did.
NW
nwtv2003
Even without Richard & Judy, it'd have moved, at least, to Manchester, by 2000, like the news did.


One wonders whether this had an influence of the Granada Good Life channel getting set up, as GL then Breeze (and Men & Motors) original programming was mostly made at Quay Street, many programmes in similar vein to This Morning. Although Breeze's garden studio wasn't built until 1998 for it's programming. News had moved back to Manchester by 1998, I think they moved out when Shop! moved in.

Was driving past IWM North and the Coronation Street development site last night and couldn't help but notice that one of the lights on the BBC sign had already gone out, so all you could see was ' BC'
MK
Mr Kite
Yes, the news moved out just prior to Shop! moving in, which was October 1998, I believe; when the 'Bringing the News Home to You' titles came in. Would be interesting to know whether Shop! caused the move of the news or whether Granada wanted the news back in God's city anyhow. I guess the writing was on the wall as soon as they moved the main Granada Tonight programme back to Manchester, more or less as soon as the ITV license was secured (cynical, moi?). By the way, does anyone know exactly when this occurred? Looking at clips from 1992 on TV Ark, they're using a backdrop of Liverpool, but it looks like a picture rather than a real time 'window', whereas it seems to be a window on the short bulletins which were definately still in Liverpool at that point. I know during the compass titles era, Granada Tonight was back in Manchester.

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