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JO
Joshua
Am I right in thinking that 'The One Show' comes from White City? or one of the surrounding buildings? If so, where will that come from in the near future?
LM
Lee M
Am I right in thinking that 'The One Show' comes from White City? or one of the surrounding buildings? If so, where will that come from in the near future?


For any other show, you would say that it would be moved to Salford, but The One Show needs to be in London because otherwise they wouldn't be able to get high profile guests as much (a problem Breakfast will soon start to encounter). It could be a while before they need to do anything anyway, but there is always one of the new News studios at Broadcasting House, though none of them will have quite the view that the current position at White City does.
AM
amosc100
Lee M posted:
Am I right in thinking that 'The One Show' comes from White City? or one of the surrounding buildings? If so, where will that come from in the near future?


For any other show, you would say that it would be moved to Salford, but The One Show needs to be in London because otherwise they wouldn't be able to get high profile guests as much (a problem Breakfast will soon start to encounter). It could be a while before they need to do anything anyway, but there is always one of the new News studios at Broadcasting House, though none of them will have quite the view that the current position at White City does.



With what justification you base your ideology that no high profile guests will go to Salford/Manchester?

Is not already a fact that many professors they talk to come from the north west region?

Is not already a fact that many high-profile politicians are north west based?

Is not already a fact that Granada NEVER had a problem in getting guests to Manchester, or even Liverpool?
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
Is not already a fact that Granada NEVER had a problem in getting guests to Manchester, or even Liverpool?


The whole reason given for This Morning being moved from Liverpool to London was that Granada couldn't get the high-profile guests to come up.

Same reason was given for The One Show moving from Birmingham to London.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
The whole reason given for This Morning being moved from Liverpool to London was that Granada couldn't get the high-profile guests to come up.


This came up on here not so long ago, and there were suggestions that claim wasn't quite as true as was widely thought.

But then, you can put 4 TV Forumers in a room and still get 5 opinions, so who knows!
MK
Mr Kite
Indeed, the This Morning thing was codswallop.

This Morning moved to London because of two factors; firstly, Granada were only in Liverpool anyway to help secure its franchise renewal in 1991 and secondly, they bought out LWT in 1994 and wanted to make the most of their newly-aquired, purpose-built London studios. Of course, Granada couldn't be honest and just come out with any of that so said some daft crap about Tom Cruise not wanting to venture north of the M25.
TR
TROGGLES
I still can't see how this is going to work unless there is something that hasn't been announced yet or is being hidden. Presumably to get BBC three into Salford the last vestiges of the BBC North idea will have to be forgotton. The whole point was to create new innovative programmes and ideas with fresh faces and new input. Shifting existing resources geographically for political reasons isn't going to do that.

I can see that Thomson and his staff will have nice offices in Broadcasting House - Management are like boys with toys - they like to be in the lastest building & you could find a nice office window for the One show but where does everyone else go? Programme production offices, Channel controllers & infrastructure for 1,2 & 4. There is not the room at BH. All that is left is Elstree - and the office space there was in a pretty poor state.

The other odd thing is this business with Birmingham. Has someone there upset Thompson which is leading to factual programming being redeployed to Bristol? And why, Bristol was to be run down? Cardiff is suitable for Drama but not much else.

Of course this is going to happen over a number of years and I'm guessing that Thomson and Co. haven't a clue how they are going to do it, there is no long term plan, they are hoping to get through until another government & a realistic licence fee settlement.

It's a umitigated mess.

About time that frightened rabbit Jeremy Hunt stood up to the Murdoch agenda.
MA
manclad
I think it is acknowledged now that the This Morning move wasn't entirely due to lack of high profile guests. I can imagine it was difficult sometimes in luring guests up to Liverpool but today such Cities (especially Manchester) are very desirable locations. And someone mentioned the One Show....there have been plenty of occasions where I have seen guests who either live or are working in the North West travel to London just to be on the One Show.
HO
House
Lee M posted:
Am I right in thinking that 'The One Show' comes from White City? or one of the surrounding buildings? If so, where will that come from in the near future?


For any other show, you would say that it would be moved to Salford, but The One Show needs to be in London because otherwise they wouldn't be able to get high profile guests as much (a problem Breakfast will soon start to encounter). It could be a while before they need to do anything anyway, but there is always one of the new News studios at Broadcasting House, though none of them will have quite the view that the current position at White City does.



With what justification you base your ideology that no high profile guests will go to Salford/Manchester?

Is not already a fact that many professors they talk to come from the north west region?

Is not already a fact that many high-profile politicians are north west based?

Is not already a fact that Granada NEVER had a problem in getting guests to Manchester, or even Liverpool?


Frankly most of the studio-based guests (crucial for its format) on The One Show are in London to promote whatever it is they're promoting. It wouldn't be impossible to get guests to Manchester, but it would certainly be harder to get the guests they want.

To take a random selection of guests they've had of late:
Arrow A film star probably in London for a day or two to promote the film around the premiere
Arrow A London-based newsreader
Arrow A London-based Eastenders actress
Arrow A celebrity author living in London

The likelihood of the programme achieving a line-up of similar calibre if they were based in Salford, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff or anywhere significantly outside the capital is fairly low. And it's all well and good for certain posters on here to take a 'If they can't be bothered to travel to Salford to promote their book then their loss' would be fine if the sole purpose of a programme like Breakfast or The One Show was to enable these people to promote their books - but it's not. The main purpose is to provide audiences with useful, interesting and entertaining interviews, conversations and information. So the decision should be made on how the BBC can provide the service that is expected at a reasonable cost, and not based on politics.
GE
Generic
A member of the One Show production team did say that when they were in Birmingham, they struggled to get guests. That was the reason they claimed why it moved to London.
BU
buster
When it was in Birmingham it was quite a different show though...it certainly didn't open with "hello, he's our guest" as they do now, it wasn't build around them to such an extent.
TV
TV Monkey
As with This Morning, there's a few slightly misleading comments about The One Show flying about in this thread.

The main reason why it moved to London was because the facilities at the Mailbox were only ever temporary (and looked that way on screen). You couldn't feasibly have had a set-up like that on a permanent basis, and to bring the facilities up to scratch would have required serious investment. It was much easier and cheaper to move it to London.

Also, I seem to remember Adrian Chiles was settled in London and didn't want to uproot his family back to Birmingham.

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