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MA
Markymark
HarryBNF posted:
Markymark posted:
Every morning at 07:15 Carol Kirkwood presents a weather forecast on Chris Evans' Radio 2 show, and normally engages in a bit of banter. Of course moments later she is on TV presenting the weather on BBC Breakfast.

The audio quality is usually awful, sounds like a poor ISDN line, this morning it was via a phone line.

I don't understand. OK, she's in NBH, Evans is nearby in Western House, but don't the Beeb have some
sort of MADI (or similar) ring between buildings in the W1 'campus' ?

Carol doesn't leave NBH and go into the studio with Chris. You need to watch this video. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/34017354


Eh, Did you actually read my post ? Of course she doesn't leave the NBH studio, why on earth do you think I thought she did ? Rolling Eyes
GE
thegeek Founding member
Presumably there's some daft bit of BBC internal accounting that means that the charge to use an internal music line is more than the cost of using a codec. It's a bit like how they used to send a sat truck to the front of TVC because it was cheaper than using the video tielines from the horseshoe carpark.
MA
Markymark
thegeek posted:
Presumably there's some daft bit of BBC internal accounting that means that the charge to use an internal music line is more than the cost of using a codec. It's a bit like how they used to send a sat truck to the front of TVC because it was cheaper than using the video tielines from the horseshoe carpark.


One BBC eh ? Cool ( I worked for a huge multinational electronics company for almost 30 years, so I can well believe it !)
IS
Inspector Sands
I believe the sat truck outside TVC was more to do with it being easier and more reliable than using tie lines. An SNG truck is ready to go and regular goes to air, the tie lines were a bit ropey, took a bit more setting up and quite often no one knew where they ended up
SP
Steve in Pudsey
And already paid for - an SNG truck and crew were rostered to be available.
NG
noggin Founding member
thegeek posted:
Presumably there's some daft bit of BBC internal accounting that means that the charge to use an internal music line is more than the cost of using a codec. It's a bit like how they used to send a sat truck to the front of TVC because it was cheaper than using the video tielines from the horseshoe carpark.


Err - the reason a sat truck was usually used was because it worked more reliably...
MI
m_in_m
Markymark posted:
HarryBNF posted:
Markymark posted:
Every morning at 07:15 Carol Kirkwood presents a weather forecast on Chris Evans' Radio 2 show, and normally engages in a bit of banter. Of course moments later she is on TV presenting the weather on BBC Breakfast.

The audio quality is usually awful, sounds like a poor ISDN line, this morning it was via a phone line.

I don't understand. OK, she's in NBH, Evans is nearby in Western House, but don't the Beeb have some
sort of MADI (or similar) ring between buildings in the W1 'campus' ?

Carol doesn't leave NBH and go into the studio with Chris. You need to watch this video. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/34017354


Eh, Did you actually read my post ? Of course she doesn't leave the NBH studio, why on earth do you think I thought she did ? Rolling Eyes

I think when Carol is on location it is probably a mobile phone call she makes but when in NBH the video suggests she uses the exact same method as is used at the weekends for Radio 4 forecasts which are immediately before the top of the hour and moments later the forecaster/presenter is in the headline sequence for BBC Breakfast.
MA
Markymark
m_in_m posted:
Markymark posted:
HarryBNF posted:
Markymark posted:
Every morning at 07:15 Carol Kirkwood presents a weather forecast on Chris Evans' Radio 2 show, and normally engages in a bit of banter. Of course moments later she is on TV presenting the weather on BBC Breakfast.

The audio quality is usually awful, sounds like a poor ISDN line, this morning it was via a phone line.

I don't understand. OK, she's in NBH, Evans is nearby in Western House, but don't the Beeb have some
sort of MADI (or similar) ring between buildings in the W1 'campus' ?

Carol doesn't leave NBH and go into the studio with Chris. You need to watch this video. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/34017354


Eh, Did you actually read my post ? Of course she doesn't leave the NBH studio, why on earth do you think I thought she did ? Rolling Eyes

I think when Carol is on location it is probably a mobile phone call she makes but when in NBH the video suggests she uses the exact same method as is used at the weekends for Radio 4 forecasts which are immediately before the top of the hour and moments later the forecaster/presenter is in the headline sequence for BBC Breakfast.


The location contributions have to be by phone really, because the satellite latency would make
the banter impossible, although sometimes (location and NBH) it's a pre-record and no banter.

Getting back to the quality issue, I don't recall the R4 broadcasts sounding crap (but of course R4 are not in Western House)
Last edited by Markymark on 27 October 2015 8:02am
IS
Inspector Sands
Steve in Pudsey posted:
And already paid for - an SNG truck and crew were rostered to be available.

Which also explains why there are so many seemingly pointless 'lives' especially on regional news - better to have a crew going out in the truck to do the weather from a nice location rather than have them sitting around cluttering up the newsroom
EL
elmarko
Surely they should hire when needed for certain stories then?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
But then you're paying on call fees for little benefit, better to pay a little more to roster staff, and have them ready to go at a moment's notice.

Often the crew doing a "pointless weather live" would have been out on another story during the day.
IS
Inspector Sands
elmarko posted:
Surely they should hire when needed for certain stories then?

So if the newsroom hears about a train crash at 4pm.... they need to phone around to hire in someone who's free, can get to the studio to pick up the sat truck and then drive 60 miles to the crash scene for 6:30?

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