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deejay
There is good reason to date this to 1981. I joined the department in 1996 but nevertheless worked with some of the people in this clip and many working practices (such as the 4.30 read through) still happened. Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.
JA
james-2001
Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.


Probably didn't happen that long after this, I've seen footage of the pres suites from the late 80s with no smoking signs.
MA
Markymark
Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.


Probably didn't happen that long after this, I've seen footage of the pres suites from the late 80s with no smoking signs.


I worked in an environment where smoking was allowed until 1989. It's unbelievable that it was permitted even if you had your head stuck inside a VTR etc, never mind all the human health concerns.
IS
Inspector Sands
There is good reason to date this to 1981. I joined the department in 1996 but nevertheless worked with some of the people in this clip and many working practices (such as the 4.30 read through) still happened. Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.

The read throughs I really enjoyed if there was a good combination of team on. IIRC they were 4:30 for BBC1, 4:50 for BBC2. It not only smoking that dates these clips it's the dress code. Thankfully that had been relaxed by our time


I've seen that clip many times and it's just so fascinating. I can't hear Peter Woods name without thinking 'the newsreader is Peter Woods... hold on, there's a lot of it.

One thing I've only just noticed is that at the beginning they put a programme to air and then the vision mixer/director goes to a little panel sitting in the desk and twiddles a knob. Wonder what that is?
BL
bluecortina
There is good reason to date this to 1981. I joined the department in 1996 but nevertheless worked with some of the people in this clip and many working practices (such as the 4.30 read through) still happened. Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.

The read throughs I really enjoyed if there was a good combination of team on. IIRC they were 4:30 for BBC1, 4:50 for BBC2. It not only smoking that dates these clips it's the dress code. Thankfully that had been relaxed by our time


I've seen that clip many times and it's just so fascinating. I can't hear Peter Woods name without thinking 'the newsreader is Peter Woods... hold on, there's a lot of it.

One thing I've only just noticed is that at the beginning they put a programme to air and then the vision mixer/director goes to a little panel sitting in the desk and twiddles a knob. Wonder what that is?


If you can give me the time of the 'incident' I'll ask my wife - she might remember.

Edited to add: The person in charge was called the "Network Director', the person who actually pressed the buttons was called a 'Presentation Operational Assistant' or 'POA' for short.
BL
bluecortina
There is good reason to date this to 1981. I joined the department in 1996 but nevertheless worked with some of the people in this clip and many working practices (such as the 4.30 read through) still happened. Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.

The read throughs I really enjoyed if there was a good combination of team on. IIRC they were 4:30 for BBC1, 4:50 for BBC2. It not only smoking that dates these clips it's the dress code. Thankfully that had been relaxed by our time


I've seen that clip many times and it's just so fascinating. I can't hear Peter Woods name without thinking 'the newsreader is Peter Woods... hold on, there's a lot of it.

One thing I've only just noticed is that at the beginning they put a programme to air and then the vision mixer/director goes to a little panel sitting in the desk and twiddles a knob. Wonder what that is?



Ok I have the answer:

"That lash up box came up as a source on the mixer. The lever would super up the captions. The key quality on this box was a better than the keying available on the mixer itself. You’d have to fade in, fade out, change captions, fade in again".
Markymark and Inspector Sands gave kudos
IS
Inspector Sands

Ok I have the answer:

"That lash up box came up as a source on the mixer. The lever would super up the captions. The key quality on this box was a better than the keying available on the mixer itself. You’d have to fade in, fade out, change captions, fade in again".

I assumed it was some sort of keyer going by the delicate way he twiddled it. So he was probably adusting it after the junction ready for the next use, rather than it being used on that programme.


Edited to add: The person in charge was called the "Network Director', the person who actually pressed the buttons was called a 'Presentation Operational Assistant' or 'POA' for short.

Doesn't sound a very impressive title for someone who actually presses the buttons

They are still called Network Directors by the way
MA
Markymark

Ok I have the answer:

"That lash up box came up as a source on the mixer. The lever would super up the captions. The key quality on this box was a better than the keying available on the mixer itself. You’d have to fade in, fade out, change captions, fade in again".


Almost certainly then, an internal BBC 'Home Brew' device, occupying about 20 RU of rack space in the apparatus room Laughing Cool
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Technologist
There is good reason to date this to 1981. I joined the department in 1996 but nevertheless worked with some of the people in this clip and many working practices (such as the 4.30 read through) still happened. Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.

Earlier than 1981 ...as in 1980 I installed the GVG 300 in the refurbished Pres,A
see original at about 3 min in...
And I cannot imagine Pat Hubbard appearing in any programme without showing his new plaything !
( it was serial number 5 and the first in PAL)
Nice to see so many familiar faces
DE
deejay
There is good reason to date this to 1981. I joined the department in 1996 but nevertheless worked with some of the people in this clip and many working practices (such as the 4.30 read through) still happened. Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.

Earlier than 1981 ...as in 1980 I installed the GVG 300 in the refurbished Pres,A
see original at about 3 min in...
And I cannot imagine Pat Hubbard appearing in any programme without showing his new plaything !
( it was serial number 5 and the first in PAL)
Nice to see so many familiar faces


Interesting! I only went on comments in the YouTube link, and they seemed to base their date on the “new series of Its a Knockout” trailled during the regional opt before the news.
RW
Robert Williams Founding member
There is good reason to date this to 1981. I joined the department in 1996 but nevertheless worked with some of the people in this clip and many working practices (such as the 4.30 read through) still happened. Thankfully by then, smoking in the building had been banned.

Earlier than 1981 ...as in 1980 I installed the GVG 300 in the refurbished Pres,A
see original at about 3 min in...
And I cannot imagine Pat Hubbard appearing in any programme without showing his new plaything !
( it was serial number 5 and the first in PAL)
Nice to see so many familiar faces


Interesting! I only went on comments in the YouTube link, and they seemed to base their date on the “new series of Its a Knockout” trailled during the regional opt before the news.


From the children's programmes menu at the start of the clip, it must be 29th May 1981 - same as they are saying in the comments.

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1981-05-29#at-15.55
TI
tightrope78
Earlier than 1981 ...as in 1980 I installed the GVG 300 in the refurbished Pres,A
see original at about 3 min in...
And I cannot imagine Pat Hubbard appearing in any programme without showing his new plaything !
( it was serial number 5 and the first in PAL)
Nice to see so many familiar faces


Interesting! I only went on comments in the YouTube link, and they seemed to base their date on the “new series of Its a Knockout” trailled during the regional opt before the news.


From the children's programmes menu at the start of the clip, it must be 29th May 1981 - same as they are saying in the comments.

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1981-05-29#at-15.55

The Radio Times listing they show for BBC 2 is for the same date.

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