Is this really the image the BBC wants?
Clarance is frankly old style BBC, with his BBC Accent that really belongs on Radio4 or the World Service.
I've heard people say this a lot, but what is a 'BBC' accent?
Oh, and don't bring Clarence back. I only get to watch BBC News a few times a week, and it seems that he was presenting it more often than not. He's really a bad newsreader with a stuffy voice and d*amn
crazy hair.
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alekf
cheshirec posted:
I doubt News24 will ever have 2 presenters overnight.
Simply because of the fact that it costs money, and if the BBC can get by with 1 presenter, which they can, there is no reason why they should put 2 on.
I am not sure why Sky decided to put 2 presenters on overnight, I presume they may start doing this again after the relaunch.
Plus it would confuse the BBC World viewers. BBC World only has one presenter all the time.
*Sorry I didn't see the post above saying the same thing...but it still stands to be true.
(Edited by alekf at 8:36 pm on June 19, 2001)
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Jamez
alekf posted:
cheshirec posted:
Is this really the image the BBC wants?
Clarance is frankly old style BBC, with his BBC Accent that really belongs on Radio4 or the World Service.
I've heard people say this a lot, but what is a 'BBC' accent?
Oh, and don't bring Clarence back. I only get to watch BBC News a few times a week, and it seems that he was presenting it more often than not. He's really a bad newsreader with a stuffy voice and d*amn
crazy hair.
A 'BBC' accent is just the normal standard British accent - the majority of people who live in the south of England have a Standard British accent - but I don't know where I picked mine up from living on the tip of west wales, perhaps its all the English people who moved to my area, and I got it from them I suppose.
The BBC accent isn't posh - Philip Hayton on BBC News has the best Standard British / BBC accent I've heard, although it must be said some of these people do have elecution lessons to cover up their origianal accent, but I think they should keep their accents such as Newcastle, and north of England accents.
I cannot stand the Liverpool accent though, and a couple of famous people have left behind their Liverpool accents such as Anne Robinson and Peter Sissons - thank goodness, but Cilla Black and the Beetles have made a success of their regional lingo
I'm not fond of Machester accents but some people make it sound alright (not that i can name any though).
Clarance, being (and looking) a prat, suits an annoying posh accent.
He doesn't have a BBC accent, it's way too deep and infuriating. A BBC Accent is a very clear one you can understand easily, which is what i think BBC World should have.
Imagine having a Jayne Middlemiss presenting an internation bulitin on World.
Yes but realistically Breaking News isn't usually very common at 2am.
The only story that has been very big that has broken overnight in recent times would be the Diana story and all 3 networks managed to rush in their main anchors within an hour.
I have to disagree with that because news happens and can happen 24 hours a day. The foot and mouth outbreak was breaking news at around 2am, aswell as things like the UK and US election.
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alekf
In America there is generally a standard 'American English accent' that all of the presenters on national news shows have. Katie Couric from the Today show on NBC is from the South, but she does not have a southern accent at all. IMO it's generally important to have a standard accent of your own respective language. I know that I sometimes can't understand people from the south, and there is no way on this planet that I could ever understand some of the British regional accents!
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Alek what about STUART VARNEY on CNN Moneyline before Dobbs was (1. lured back or 2. needed the work!).
A strong English accent with a slight American mannerisms - bet the Americans love(d) it!
First of all... the UK and US Elections are rare events, they do not come under the term of 'breaking news'.
And the foot and mouth outbreak may have broken at 2am on BBC News 24, and also why have the BBC TOTALLY missed this airstrikes story in Iraq?
Sky, CNN and ITN all reported it but there has been no mention whatsoever on any of the BBC services today.
Now, Let me inform you what a BBC Accent is.
Essentially when BBC went nationwide they needed to establish a tone (now more commonly called Clipped Tones), which could be understood by everybody in the country.
It would have been no good sticking a Brummie on the Home Service as this would mean alienating about 95% of the listeners.
Hence, they had to establish a manner of speaking which could be understood by all.
A BBC Accent is NOT 'Standard British', if you mean Standard British is something found in the South East of England then that too is wrong.
The BBC Accent was not orignally contrived from the way people talked in London or the South East, it was composed of various different accents and dialects in an effort to get most of the population to associate with the BBC.
It just so happened that the BBC Accent came to stand for something else.
It became the accent of authority, and frankly if you didn't speak with a BBC Accent you were a pleb.
As the people living in the South East at the time were generally 'well to do' then they adopted this style of speaking, basically to ensure they were not relegated to the lower classes.
As a rule the BBC Accent is not common anymore, as regional services have come into effect.
The accent used on current programmes is not a BBC Accent, simply a more informal variation of it.
The BBC Accent was designed so that no-one knew where abouts in the UK you were born/educated, clearly watching some of the presenters this is not the case.
Libby Purves spoke with a strong BBC Accent, she used to do the Today Programme on Radio 4.
Listening to her today, she has lost this tone as times have moved on.
It is quite rare to hear the BBC Accent anymore, Clarance is simply an example of a stronger style of BBC Accent then you would expect to find around today.
JA
Jamez
cheshirec posted:
First of all... the UK and US Elections are rare events, they do not come under the term of 'breaking news'.
And the foot and mouth outbreak may have broken at 2am on BBC News 24, and also why have the BBC TOTALLY missed this airstrikes story in Iraq?
Sky, CNN and ITN all reported it but there has been no mention whatsoever on any of the BBC services today.
Now, Let me inform you what a BBC Accent is.
Essentially when BBC went nationwide they needed to establish a tone (now more commonly called Clipped Tones), which could be understood by everybody in the country.
It would have been no good sticking a Brummie on the Home Service as this would mean alienating about 95% of the listeners.
Hence, they had to establish a manner of speaking which could be understood by all.
A BBC Accent is NOT 'Standard British', if you mean Standard British is something found in the South East of England then that too is wrong.
The BBC Accent was not orignally contrived from the way people talked in London or the South East, it was composed of various different accents and dialects in an effort to get most of the population to associate with the BBC.
It just so happened that the BBC Accent came to stand for something else.
It became the accent of authority, and frankly if you didn't speak with a BBC Accent you were a pleb.
As the people living in the South East at the time were generally 'well to do' then they adopted this style of speaking, basically to ensure they were not relegated to the lower classes.
As a rule the BBC Accent is not common anymore, as regional services have come into effect.
The accent used on current programmes is not a BBC Accent, simply a more informal variation of it.
The BBC Accent was designed so that no-one knew where abouts in the UK you were born/educated, clearly watching some of the presenters this is not the case.
Libby Purves spoke with a strong BBC Accent, she used to do the Today Programme on Radio 4.
Listening to her today, she has lost this tone as times have moved on.
It is quite rare to hear the BBC Accent anymore, Clarance is simply an example of a stronger style of BBC Accent then you would expect to find around today.
The people who live in the south east of england tend to have those horrible shrill english accents - and the people who live in that area tend to be off their heads aynway - plus they tend to be anti-Welsh, Northern people, Scotish and generally any other region or nationality.
Birmingham should be the new capital city - its in the middle of the country, and the people are generally nicer there.
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jae
I've recently moved to a school 'up North' - Wakefield - having been brought up in Esher in Surrey.
When I first arrived there I was assumed to be snotty and too upper class, but people soon realised that a BBC accent didn't mean unfriendliness. They just grew used to it, and I lowered the tone a bit so I became more acceptable to them. I now have many friends there and they are really nice people.
But, if you want to hear posh then you only have to listen to my father, even I can't stand his accent.
He pronounces 'house' as 'hice' and my friends think he is wierd especially when he answers the phone and shouts 'Hellair'.
That isn't a BBC Accent.... speaking 'posh' is not a BBC Accent.
By the simple fact that people couldn't understand you or your father means that it isn't a BBC Accent.
A BBC Accent could still be understood by even the most stupid twerp on the planet.
