LL
Bit of a wasted opportunity I thought. Could've been a nice comedy chat show with a couple of games but they seemed to keen on the whole "hey we're having a party" vibe that just ends up forced.
MS
That seems to be the way these chat shows are going though. Look at James Corden and Jimmy Fallon as examples.
Bit of a wasted opportunity I thought. Could've been a nice comedy chat show with a couple of games but they seemed to keen on the whole "hey we're having a party" vibe that just ends up forced.
That seems to be the way these chat shows are going though. Look at James Corden and Jimmy Fallon as examples.
LL
It's a shame really. I think Graham Norton is the only person who manages to sustain a moderately straight-laced chat show. Jonathan Ross is certainly guilty of trying to spice up a lacklustre couch with a daft party game.
DM
*Ahem JAMES GRANT* 
Seems to be more inspired by the Michael McIntyre show (and made by the same company) than a chat show. Clearly a pilot for a longer run but didn't really tick any boxes, and didn't help all the guests were basically cut from the same cloth.
JK
Apart from The Graham Norton Show, there isn't really any competition to go up against Graham here in the UK. The Jonathan Ross Show is dull, boring, terrible guests, and just lacks the spark you need for a Saturday night show. And what else do we have? Piers Morgan on now and again, and the annual Alan Carr Christmas Special.
in the US they are swamped with talk shows - NBC have the Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon and Late Night with Seth Meyers. CBS have the Late Show with Stephen Colbert and the Late Late Show with James Corden. ABC have Kimmy Kimmel Live. Comedy Central have the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. TBS have Conan. Along with the weekly shows from Bill Maher, John Oliver, Samantha Bee.
We seem to be in a drought of talk shows and the US seem to be in a flood of them in 2019.
in the US they are swamped with talk shows - NBC have the Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon and Late Night with Seth Meyers. CBS have the Late Show with Stephen Colbert and the Late Late Show with James Corden. ABC have Kimmy Kimmel Live. Comedy Central have the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. TBS have Conan. Along with the weekly shows from Bill Maher, John Oliver, Samantha Bee.
We seem to be in a drought of talk shows and the US seem to be in a flood of them in 2019.
WO
What you have to remember, though, is that the US is a very different market to here. For starters, their population is about five times the size of ours, hence there is a much bigger potential audience. Which brings me to my next point, which is that, as we all know, the centre of the world's film and TV industry is based in America; ergo, there are many, many more potential guests available to an American late night show than there would be to any similar British programme. It really is just a question of numbers - five times the people means five times the celebrities, and thus five times the chance of getting someone considered to be worth interviewing.
It's also worth noting that, traditionally, there has been a sort of hierarchy of late night shows - the heavyweights - The Tonight Show, The Late Show and Jimmy Kimmel - generally get what you might call A-listers, then the shows that come on after - Late Night and The Late Late Show - tend to get the next tier of guests, then Last Call, which airs after Late Night on NBC, gets whatever's left. Again, the sheer amount of people in US showbiz allows this - such a system simply wouldn't work in this country.
It's also worth noting that, traditionally, there has been a sort of hierarchy of late night shows - the heavyweights - The Tonight Show, The Late Show and Jimmy Kimmel - generally get what you might call A-listers, then the shows that come on after - Late Night and The Late Late Show - tend to get the next tier of guests, then Last Call, which airs after Late Night on NBC, gets whatever's left. Again, the sheer amount of people in US showbiz allows this - such a system simply wouldn't work in this country.
AN
You’ve answered your own question there.
There seems to be a rule now where if you aren’t this week’s Hollywood A lister flogging this week’s new cinema release then you are automatically seen as a crap guest. Hence why you don’t have as many chat shows anymore.
Personally I think Graham Norton’s Show has become quite samey and stuck in a rut with movie stars dominating most seats on the couch most weeks and the same old American style of anecdote. He doesn’t even have the British comedian in the right hand seat anymore most weeks, and would much rather see some more down to earth Brits having a chat.
Andrew
Founding member
Apart from The Graham Norton Show, there isn't really any competition to go up against Graham here in the UK. The Jonathan Ross Show is dull, boring, terrible guests,
You’ve answered your own question there.
There seems to be a rule now where if you aren’t this week’s Hollywood A lister flogging this week’s new cinema release then you are automatically seen as a crap guest. Hence why you don’t have as many chat shows anymore.
Personally I think Graham Norton’s Show has become quite samey and stuck in a rut with movie stars dominating most seats on the couch most weeks and the same old American style of anecdote. He doesn’t even have the British comedian in the right hand seat anymore most weeks, and would much rather see some more down to earth Brits having a chat.
WO
You’ve answered your own question there.
There seems to be a rule now where if you aren’t this week’s Hollywood A lister flogging this week’s new cinema release then you are automatically seen as a crap guest. Hence why you don’t have as many chat shows anymore.
Personally I think Graham Norton’s Show has become quite samey and stuck in a rut with movie stars dominating most seats on the couch most weeks and the same old American style of anecdote. He doesn’t even have the British comedian in the right hand seat anymore most weeks, and would much rather see some more down to earth Brits having a chat.
I get the sense that a lot of this comes from people seeing the likes of James Corden and Jimmy Fallon's shows online, with all their viral moments, and thinking 'if they can do that then why can't Graham Norton,' whilst not realising that we just don't have that deep pool of potential guests that they do back in the States.
Apart from The Graham Norton Show, there isn't really any competition to go up against Graham here in the UK. The Jonathan Ross Show is dull, boring, terrible guests,
You’ve answered your own question there.
There seems to be a rule now where if you aren’t this week’s Hollywood A lister flogging this week’s new cinema release then you are automatically seen as a crap guest. Hence why you don’t have as many chat shows anymore.
Personally I think Graham Norton’s Show has become quite samey and stuck in a rut with movie stars dominating most seats on the couch most weeks and the same old American style of anecdote. He doesn’t even have the British comedian in the right hand seat anymore most weeks, and would much rather see some more down to earth Brits having a chat.
I get the sense that a lot of this comes from people seeing the likes of James Corden and Jimmy Fallon's shows online, with all their viral moments, and thinking 'if they can do that then why can't Graham Norton,' whilst not realising that we just don't have that deep pool of potential guests that they do back in the States.
AN
You’ve answered your own question there.
There seems to be a rule now where if you aren’t this week’s Hollywood A lister flogging this week’s new cinema release then you are automatically seen as a crap guest. Hence why you don’t have as many chat shows anymore.
Personally I think Graham Norton’s Show has become quite samey and stuck in a rut with movie stars dominating most seats on the couch most weeks and the same old American style of anecdote. He doesn’t even have the British comedian in the right hand seat anymore most weeks, and would much rather see some more down to earth Brits having a chat.
I get the sense that a lot of this comes from people seeing the likes of James Corden and Jimmy Fallon's shows online, with all their viral moments, and thinking 'if they can do that then why can't Graham Norton,' whilst not realising that we just don't have that deep pool of potential guests that they do back in the States.
Not to mention that the viral moments are just that - moments. Whenever I’ve been to the States and watched any of these shows live, they were a lot less entertaining than I expected.
Apart from The Graham Norton Show, there isn't really any competition to go up against Graham here in the UK. The Jonathan Ross Show is dull, boring, terrible guests,
You’ve answered your own question there.
There seems to be a rule now where if you aren’t this week’s Hollywood A lister flogging this week’s new cinema release then you are automatically seen as a crap guest. Hence why you don’t have as many chat shows anymore.
Personally I think Graham Norton’s Show has become quite samey and stuck in a rut with movie stars dominating most seats on the couch most weeks and the same old American style of anecdote. He doesn’t even have the British comedian in the right hand seat anymore most weeks, and would much rather see some more down to earth Brits having a chat.
I get the sense that a lot of this comes from people seeing the likes of James Corden and Jimmy Fallon's shows online, with all their viral moments, and thinking 'if they can do that then why can't Graham Norton,' whilst not realising that we just don't have that deep pool of potential guests that they do back in the States.
Not to mention that the viral moments are just that - moments. Whenever I’ve been to the States and watched any of these shows live, they were a lot less entertaining than I expected.