Bloody stupid "film" effect

...on, of all things, "The 20th Century Roadshow". Not subtle, and not needed. It's actually incredibly unpleasant to watch. What the **** do the people responsible for this think they're playing at?

Wholly agree - TV is TV, Film is Film, TV is far more superior to film so why downgrade it to be Film like.

Just an idea, and the more techie people might be able to help, but I was just wondering if instead of being deinterlaced, this was originally shot in HDTV...? Since the BBC are now starting to make programmes in that format.

Because, as Jenny said, there seems to be no reason to add the film effect. If that's all they've done, it's a bit silly.

i'm completely confused bout what your on about, it seems fine to me.

But, does producing a program with HDTV cameras and equipment give it a "filmic" look without it being added
in post production? Somehow, I doubt it. Take "The Late Show with David Letterman" for example. CBS have
been taping that with HDTV cameras and equipment for ages, and when has that ever had a filmic effect?

Unless somebody's switched that dodgy ARC into circuit...

Home & Away went filmic when it moved over to HD, so it may well be something to do with that.

Although I believe Seven's decision to send H&A filmic was more to do with the direction of the show at the time.

I take it this is the same thing which ruined the two episodes of the Vicar of Dibley at Xmas and New Year.

I was talking to my sister (who isn't a presentation anorak) the other day, and the topic of conversation somehow got round to Brookside and why it ended up being axed. She said something along the lines of, "It just seemed to go rubbish when they started doing it on film."

Clearly the crap storylines had a major part to play, but the filmy effect really didn't suit the programme. Perhaps viewers are more sensitive to it than the programme-makers might think.

Isn't the film effect just about dropping a few frames per second?

If you're wanting to make your TV show look like a movie, then bloody well record it onto 35mm!

Quite, as far as I'm aware when you shoot something on HD you can pretty much choose your frame rate and resolution etc.; the film look isn't just a side-effect. For example I'm sure I read somewhere that The Bill is all shot on HD but retains the TV look.

I think that's how they used to do it, although it made everything look very juddery. I remember Casualty tried this technique for a short time in the mid 90s. I watched one of the episodes after a few drinks and it did actually make me feel physically sick. In the end they got so many complaints that they reverted to normal after a few episodes. Nowadays I believe it's a more sophisticated process which adds the grainy texture.

Sure it'd be nice to have everything shot on proper film, but I'm guessing this is a cost issue. Generally I don't have a problem if it's used for the right kind of programme. It seems more appropriate for serious dramas or dark comedies. On some programmes though, it just looks plain odd.