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Upload TV169 posts since 17 Nov 2017
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I could be wrong and correct me if I am. But I’m pretty sure Big Brother is one of Channel 5’s biggest show. It’s not usual for the channel to air a show that gets over the 1M mark even Will & Grace which is a huge show in the US struggled to peak at half a million viewers

Not exactly, most of their prime time shows get over 1m now, less than that is a pretty average performance for them so they’re not struggling for shows that can rate decently for them. Although Big Brother is one of their bigger shows, probably still just about their biggest, it’s not rating significantly higher than their other shows which it used to. I’d be surprised if they went for another three more years of this as it’s sure only drop further. This series of CBB was pretty good but it must have been the lowest rated series.


Well Channel 5 have been doing loads of promotion for the summer series already. I actually seen an advert on Facebook and posts on Twitter of posters in university’s to audition for Big Brother. If this means there struggling to get people to audition or just trying to make this series stand out we’ll not know. Also there promising cutting back on outside contact, better tasks and well bringing back the social experiment it used to be. They’ve also delayed the series to avoid it clashing with Love Island (Which is very worrisome) I think however no matter how
much they try the damage is done and I doubt the ratings will ever recover
HJL551 posts since 1 Mar 2014
Spotlight
What a surprise......There cant ask to pay less for the celeb shows. That's where the money is made. The normal version well it's meh. Maybe they should just change it to two 4 week blocks instead like the celb version instead of draggin it out.


I agree, I found the house far more interesting in this series when there were just 8 housemates at the start. It's more honest and more intense, they're too used to putting in 16 housemates and creating the same formulaic series each year. It would be better to return to the times when there were fewer housemates - if that means a shorter series or fewer evictions and maybe a few late arrivals - then I think I would enjoy it far more.

I'm probably in the minority, however, praying that it gets renewed! If it doesn't and it gets picked up by someone else we're going to end up with Emma leaving and it becoming the Rylan show (which isn't an awful prospect, but it isn't BB).
Upload TV169 posts since 17 Nov 2017
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What a surprise......There cant ask to pay less for the celeb shows. That's where the money is made. The normal version well it's meh. Maybe they should just change it to two 4 week blocks instead like the celb version instead of draggin it out.


I agree, I found the house far more interesting in this series when there were just 8 housemates at the start. It's more honest and more intense, they're too used to putting in 16 housemates and creating the same formulaic series each year. It would be better to return to the times when there were fewer housemates - if that means a shorter series or fewer evictions and maybe a few late arrivals - then I think I would enjoy it far more.

I'm probably in the minority, however, praying that it gets renewed! If it doesn't and it gets picked up by someone else we're going to end up with Emma leaving and it becoming the Rylan show (which isn't an awful prospect, but it isn't BB).


I totally agree I thought those episodes with just 8 housemates were fantastic and would love a cut to the number of housemates. There was some real discussions going on in there when it was just 8
Last edited by Upload TV on 9 February 2018 1:07am
Jonwo (previously Jonwo87) 550 posts since 20 Sep 2007
I could be wrong and correct me if I am. But I’m pretty sure Big Brother is one of Channel 5’s biggest show. It’s not usual for the channel to air a show that gets over the 1M mark even Will & Grace which is a huge show in the US struggled to peak at half a million viewers

Not exactly, most of their prime time shows get over 1m now, less than that is a pretty average performance for them so they’re not struggling for shows that can rate decently for them. Although Big Brother is one of their bigger shows, probably still just about their biggest, it’s not rating significantly higher than their other shows which it used to. I’d be surprised if they went for another three more years of this as it’s sure only drop further. This series of CBB was pretty good but it must have been the lowest rated series.


Ideally Channel 5 would scrap normal BB which has failed to hit even 1m and keep Celebrity Big Brother but I suspect Ben Frow is willing to let it go.

Also by far the most costly though and actually now rating at a level where other shows aren't that far behind. They may have less advertiser friendly audiences but with much lower costs are likely more profitable.


I suspect Channel 5's most expensive shows are Neighbours, Home and Away and Big Brother. GPs Behind Closed Doors has 50 episodes a year but I imagine it's very cheap to make.
Jon7,765 posts since 11 Apr 2005
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I suspect on a per hour basis they are a lot cheaper than something like an episode of The Hotel Inspector.

I bet an hour of GP’s behind closed doors costs more than an hour of Big Brother. It’s also far less lucrative in terms of things like Product Placement and sponsorship.
Upload TV169 posts since 17 Nov 2017
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I think that Channel 5 should stop 30 min breaks in evictions as it’s proven that when they return at 10.30pm the ratings plummet. Plus it’s poorly scheduled it’s 9pm,10pm,10.30pm or moved to 5STAR. I remember last year it was on at 11.30pm - 12.30am. Maybe if they would stick to a time period and stopped 30 min beaks it may help out the show. Not that it will save the show but it’ll keep eviction shows at a good figure
Interceptor772 posts since 20 Oct 2014
I suspect on a per hour basis they are a lot cheaper than something like an episode of The Hotel Inspector.

I bet an hour of GP’s behind closed doors costs more than an hour of Big Brother. It’s also far less lucrative in terms of things like Product Placement and sponsorship.

But Channel 5 will repeat each episode of The Hotel Inspector many times. An episode of Big Brother is effectively dead 24 hours after original broadcast.
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noggin14,312 posts since 26 Jun 2001
I suspect on a per hour basis they are a lot cheaper than something like an episode of The Hotel Inspector.

I bet an hour of GP’s behind closed doors costs more than an hour of Big Brother. It’s also far less lucrative in terms of things like Product Placement and sponsorship.

But Channel 5 will repeat each episode of The Hotel Inspector many times. An episode of Big Brother is effectively dead 24 hours after original broadcast.


And the rights to The Hotel Inspector (and shows like it) will return to the indie that made it after a period, and they can then continue to sell it, which means C5 may pay less in the first place (as the indie knows it will regain sales rights and make money themselves from the show in the long term).

That won't be the case with Big Brother.
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gottago2,808 posts since 26 Aug 2004
London London
Ben Frow has said that BB will not return "in its current form" next year but doesn't go into what that means. He also says that after months of negotiating a budget for another series "the ball's in Endemol's court" which perhaps implies that C5 have offered their final take it or leave it price. I think the most likely option is that only the two celeb series will remain, assuming Endemol can still afford to make them.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/channel-5/c5-to-plough-bb-money-into-nations-and-regions/5128622.article