Big Brother UK

If BB went to ITV then it should be like this.

Have the Highlight show and BBBOTS on ITV2

Have the Evictions, Live Specials, Launch, and Final on ITV.

Live Feeds should also be on both channels so ITV2 gets the Live Feed at the daytime when they won't show anything and ITV gets the live feed late at night. So like when Jackpot247 is on because we can live without Jackpot247 for 3 months.

At the end, though, the viewing figures were almost the same as those of the Channel Four Daily a decade previously. That's according to Ian Jones in his Morning Glory book, anyway.

RI:SE's figures were almost the same as those of the 'Daily, too, except for when (shock!) Big Brother was on.




I think some of us can live without Jackpot247 *and* SuperCasino all year round.

Think ITV2 have recommissioned Survival of the Fittest which runs a few weeks in the winter. It was scrap as a reality show but had a decent selection of challenges.

Were rumours a while back that C5 were looking at Survivor, which if done well and produced as Survivor, not Geordie Shore, would be interesting to see. Not a huge fan of the US version but the Aussie one is brilliant.

It depends what is defined as "almost". It was getting between 300,000 and 400,000 during its dying days compared to the 100,000 that tuned into Channel 4 Daily (and later RI:SE at some points).

I’m not sure if Survivor would work again, I think IAC and The Island sort of fill that void.

I think The Amazing Race would be good but i suspect it’s too expensive.

Mr Jones says that the 'Daily's figures were usually around 200,000.

He also says that by spring 2001, the Big Breakfast's figures were "close to 200,000 - the figure that had brought the axe down on the Channel Four Daily, which compared to the current incarnation of the Big Breakfast seemed positively radiant". And this Guardian article from around that time, regarding the appointment of Ben Rigden as the show's (final) executive producer, says that the figures were "in the doldrums at around 300,000" - which I don't think can be considered a long way away from 200,000.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/mar/30/broadcasting5

I've said before that the last-ever episode comes across as a bit of a "screw you" to C4 - especially the bit with the giant garden gnome outside 124 Horseferry Road. I guess Planet 24 weren't happy, having also failed to win the contract to produce the replacement show (we can only speculate whether or not they would have done any better than Princess Productions and Sky).

There was far, *far* more dignity in the last episode of Big Brother on C4. Obviously, we'll just have to wait and see how dignified an occasion the last C5 episode is.

Only little I know, but noticed that the name strap sound on BBBOTS is the same as the time-tag used back in BB6, nice little throwback!

The main reason they got it in the first place was so they could fill The Daily Star with stories from it, and they could do that more with the 'celebrity' version. The synergy worked both ways, they had a newspaper that got content from the programme and the programme got a national newspaper that publicised it every day.


Now that connection is lost its a lot less attractive to the broadcaster

I cannot comprehend how you have drawn this conclusion.

Everything we have seen from ITV in the last few years is that ITV2 is no longer an "ITV Extra" channel so there is no way they'd run a series with the less important shows on 2 with the main stuff on ITV. Absolutely no way.

And also "we can live without Jackpot247", I'm sure. I'm not so sure ITV would be as willing to kick out a guaranteed revenue stream however.

If there's any chance (and it's a big 'if') ITV will take it, I can't see the civilian version being on ITV (There's a better possibility of CBB on ITV though).
Live Feeds could go on ITVBe, and the live launch of civilian could be simulcast on ITV/ITV2 (since Big Brother has the ability to skew older as well as younger).

Yes, but that's hardly a ringing endorsement because The Channel 4 Daily was an expensive flop (I say that as someone who watched it every day). It doesn't matter if The Big Breakfast was getting more than the Channel 4 Daily if the test card would have got more than the Channel 4 Daily. The Big Breakfast was almost always in fifth place at breakfast in its dog days, being beaten not just by Breakfast and GMTV but also kids' shows on BBC2 and Channel 5. Compare that to its heyday when it was number one.

The other difference is that when The Channel 4 Daily was on, C4 weren't selling their own advertising so it didn't matter so much if shows flopped, and the entire reason The Big Breakfast was created was to increase audiences before they started selling their own adverts. So getting higher ratings than the Channel 4 Daily was nothing to celebrate, that was the bare minimum it was expected to do.

I haven't been following this thread fully, but there have been suggestions that ITV may pick up Big Brother, and I'm sure someone said Sky might be interested. Would Channel 4 go for the show again?