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Hatton Cross
David Arnold (the other one) said in a podcast that TBB theme is going to be what he is best remembered for, rather than the countless jingles (LBC) and arrangement of music pieces (incl. BBC News themes, yes David Lowe composed it, but Arnold wrote the arrangement for the BBC Concert orchestra to read off the sheet music) he's done.

So, I doubt he's doing a land grab or doing copyright strike out claims on it.
VA
valley
DJGM posted:


I think this might be the only 'kids' programming to be broadcast on Channel 4 in years.

Kids is quotations.



The Big Breakfast wasn't any kind of kids programme. They had cartoons on it in the early days
but apart from that it was a family show.

Here is the first edition in full from 1992: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrpD8whbFZQ


The opening titles are silent ... what gives?!? That can't surely be a copyright restriction on the original Big Breakfast theme tune!

Why not? It's a piece of music, composed by David Arnold, and the copyright belongs to someone (perhaps ITV Studios since they own the Planet 24 IP I believe?)
The description even says, "due to a problem on an earlier upload of this programme I've muted the opening theme tune".
JB
JasonB
David Arnold (the other one) said in a podcast that TBB theme is going to be what he is best remembered for, rather than the countless jingles (LBC) and arrangement of music pieces (incl. BBC News themes, yes David Lowe composed it, but Arnold wrote the arrangement for the BBC Concert orchestra to read off the sheet music) he's done.

So, I doubt he's doing a land grab or doing copyright strike out claims on it.


Plus the original theme remains intact on other full episodes available on YouTube from that period.
MO
Mockah
I think this might be the only 'kids' programming to be broadcast on Channel 4 in years.

Kids is quotations.


The Big Breakfast wasn't any kind of kids programme. They had cartoons on it in the early days but apart from that it was a family show.

Here is the first edition in full from 1992: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrpD8whbFZQ



What an oopsie. Apologies.
BL
bluecortina
Not in the early days.
It was MCR'ed from the house to a mid-point receiver somewhere between Bow and Channel 4, which then sent it to Channel 4.

This was once described in detail by Chris, who explained they were making plans to pre-record the show in 30 min blocks and courier over to Channel 4, as the 'mid point transmitter' had blown over during weekend storms that hit London, and they only realised when doing the signal checks at 6am.

They managed to get access and realign the MCR somewhere around 6.30, so could do the show live.




I think the midpoint was on top of a block of flats? I recall Evans had a hand drawn diagram. I remember Evans thanking Peter Smith because they had managed to get on air via ITN.


There was a tall block of flats at Hillcrest in North London that was certainly used by ITV/ITN as a microwave mid point. But whether that was it or not I don't know.
SO
Soupnzi
With this special revival, it’s notable that weren’t many black faces on TBB. Phil Gayle was the only regular non-white face and I can only recall Craig Charles as one of the many stand-ins. I think I’ve read he was possibly in line to get Chris Evans’s job, but then he had all those legal difficulties.
HC
Hatton Cross
You are right. I'd rather they get Phil Gayle back instead of Mo Gilligan.
As for stand in presenters - why do I have a nagging thought that Lenny Henry once did a day as a fill in host?

Probably totally wrong - but, I have this hazy memory that he may have done.
AA
Amber Avenger
You are right. I'd rather they get Phil Gayle back instead of Mo Gilligan.


Why does it have to be Phil instead of Mo? Why not both, considering Phil read the news rather than being the main host, and presumably they'll be looking for a newsreader.
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SO
Soupnzi
You are right. I'd rather they get Phil Gayle back instead of Mo Gilligan.
As for stand in presenters - why do I have a nagging thought that Lenny Henry once did a day as a fill in host?

Probably totally wrong - but, I have this hazy memory that he may have done.

I think he was only ever a guest. Him and Chris Evans once memorably rode mini-motorbikes along the canal towpath; I think Henry sprained his wrist or something.
JB
JasonB
With this special revival, it’s notable that weren’t many black faces on TBB. Phil Gayle was the only regular non-white face and I can only recall Craig Charles as one of the many stand-ins. I think I’ve read he was possibly in line to get Chris Evans’s job, but then he had all those legal difficulties.


Josie D’arby was a regular host of the Bigger Breakfast with Mark Rumble.
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BR
Brekkie
Jasmine Lowson also replaced Phil Gayle, so whilst looking back it doesn't seem great for diversity for half of the shows life they did have a black or Asian newsreader at least, plus Josie did about two years on The Bigger Breakfast.

As a viewer not once did I think of them being there as a box ticking exercise, but I think that is why I'm a bit lukewarm about this revival as that is how it's coming across, which is somewhat unfair on all those involved as I honestly can't think of a better choice than Mo Gilligan to host - he's about the right age, at the right point of his career and a talented guy who has long been due a breakout hit, though if this did take off once we return to normal times not sure how compatible a breakfast show would be with a touring comedian.

As for possible co-host Maya Jama springs to mind - think I've seen them do a few things together in a presenter/guest capacity so there is a bit of chemistry there.


Do we know when this is airing - I've not seen a date mentioned other than 2021.
Last edited by Brekkie on 26 August 2020 12:17pm
HC
Hatton Cross
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