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MA
mannewskev
Remember when the bathroom was pink and blue..? (From 4:53 onwards.)

JC
JCB
The 2001 revamp was certainly a lot warmer in terms of colours though.


But the show wasn't supposed to be warm and understated it was supposed to be loud and tacky. That's what the show was invented for and it's what the show was known for. Both re-vamps failed because each time they tried re-inventing it as something polar opposite to what it was known for.....and it was just never going to stick no matter how long they gave it. It'd be like trying to re-launch Blue Peter as 'The Word' or 'Coronation Street' as a credible well written/acted drama. Impossible to do.
MA
mannewskev
JCB posted:
The 2001 revamp was certainly a lot warmer in terms of colours though.


But the show wasn't supposed to be warm and understated it was supposed to be loud and tacky. That's what the show was invented for and it's what the show was known for. Both re-vamps failed because each time they tried re-inventing it as something polar opposite to what it was known for.....and it was just never going to stick no matter how long they gave it. It'd be like trying to re-launch Blue Peter as 'The Word' or 'Coronation Street' as a credible well written/acted drama. Impossible to do.


Absolutely. The revamps took the show away from being a kind of cartoon house, an inflated version of viewers' homes at that time of day. The '96 revamp even left the house without a living room - totally unrelatable. Who's got a "den" with a sunken sofa?!
WH
Whataday Founding member
JCB posted:
The 2001 revamp was certainly a lot warmer in terms of colours though.


But the show wasn't supposed to be warm and understated it was supposed to be loud and tacky. That's what the show was invented for and it's what the show was known for. Both re-vamps failed because each time they tried re-inventing it as something polar opposite to what it was known for.....and it was just never going to stick no matter how long they gave it. It'd be like trying to re-launch Blue Peter as 'The Word' or 'Coronation Street' as a credible well written/acted drama. Impossible to do.


Absolutely. The revamps took the show away from being a kind of cartoon house, an inflated version of viewers' homes at that time of day. The '96 revamp even left the house without a living room - totally unrelatable. Who's got a "den" with a sunken sofa?!


I think the whole point of the revamps (however misguided the concept) was to change the format and look of the programme, not keep the same concept. And out of the two major revamps, 2001 was more on-brief.

The finish in 2001 was high end, and looked complete, unlike the 1996 mess of a house.
JC
JCB
I think the whole point of the revamps (however misguided the concept) was to change the format and look of the programme, not keep the same concept.


Um, that's what I said. It can't be done. You can't turn an apple into an orange.
JB
JasonB
Here they are the Christmas titles from 2000 used on The Bigger Breakfast:

FA
fanoftv
I remember that now that you say. It's off that it wasn't used for the main show, especially as try went to the effort to add the bells to the theme. If there was another year of Vaughan, I'm guessing that they may have created a Christmas version replacing the scenes with an old man becoming Santa, Etc.

Odd that they didn't just change the end of the 1992 Christmas titles with a bigger breakfast logo though.
WH
Whataday Founding member
I still have no memory of that. I remember the bells added to that music because it was used on the main show's credits. Everything I've ever seen online has said that The Bigger Breakfast ended in the Summer, so that's quite a revelation to me!

It is a dodgy edit though. I hated those titles with a passion.
FA
fanoftv
I know what you mean about the titles. They didn't seem to go anywhere or build or to anything in terms of music, but it was nice to refresh them at the time and to tie them in with Vaughan's years.

I still think that my favourite titles visually & musically were the final titles that took the 'big breakfast' quite literally.
WH
Whataday Founding member
I know what you mean about the titles. They didn't seem to go anywhere or build or to anything in terms of music, but it was nice to refresh them at the time and to tie them in with Vaughan's years.

I still think that my favourite titles visually & musically were the final titles that took the 'big breakfast' quite literally.


I think I would have preferred food items flying around rather than a random chicken mascot that wasn't referred to anywhere else. That would have linked it to the flying food from the previous titles. Also the music was too modern and not really fitting with the programme of the time in my opinion.

It was a case of new titles for the sake of it I think. With the pending return of Denise to see the show out together, they should have kept the 98 titles.

On the subject of this, does anyone have Denise's first episode back?
WH
Whataday Founding member
I think the 2000 theme suits the 2001 style a lot better:

FA
fanoftv
But not as well as the actual 2001 music which was brilliant in my opinion, and carried across well to the later titles.

As for the revamps, 1996 was trying to make a different show where as I feel 2001 was to just to give the programme a modern look. Content wise there wasn't much of a difference, obviously a lack of Vaughan features was the biggest change.

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