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BFI to digitise 100,000 British TV programmes

As viewers in 2216 "need" Mr & Mrs (November 2016)

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Brekkie
Let's try and at least get to page 2 before this inevitably turns into a discussion about the TVS archive.

The BFI have announced a mass digitisation project of 100,000 programmes, focusing on shows likely to be forgotten rather than just the classics. This includes one-off dramas, breakfast TV, childrens programming and regional shows.

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An estimated 100,000 British television programmes – which could include early editions of TV-AM, children’s series such as Tiswas, and fondly remembered, for some, episodes of Border TV’s Mr & Mrs – are to be digitised to prevent them being lost forever.

The British Film Institute has announced the mass digitisation project to save programmes which are held on obsolete video formats, warning that there are only five or six years left to save those most at risk.

The BFI’s creative director, Heather Stewart, said it was too early to say exactly which titles would be digitised, that would only be known after a six-month “discovery phase”.

“Material from the 70s and early 80s is at risk with a five or six-year shelf life,” she said. “Unless we do something about it they will just go, no matter how great the environment is you keep them in.”

Many of the better known British TV programmes from the era, such as Dad’s Army and Morecambe & Wise, have already been transferred to a digital format. But there are around 750,000 programmes on degradable one-inch and two-inch video which no one has touched.

The job now was to sit down with partners and agree which programmes were most in danger of being lost, said Stewart. They will include children’s programming, important one-off dramas, the beginning of breakfast TV and many regional ITV programmes.

Children’s programmes from the 1970s that have not been digitised include Tiswas, the Basil Brush Show, Vision On and Southern TV’s fun and educational programme How (which ranged from the useful – how to get a ship in a bottle – to the stupid – how can you break an egg with a feather? Drop them at the same time.)

Other shows that could be transferred are music series such as the Bay City Rollers’ teatime show Shang-a-Lang and Tyne Tees’ Alright Now, a precursor of The Tube; drama series such as the BBC’s Rainbow City (1967), which was one of the first to feature a black lead character; and current affairs programmes such as the long-running Nationwide.

Stewart said the BFI was not there to decide which programmes deserved to be saved on the basis of quality – even Derek Batey’s Mr & Mrs could be in there. “Where I come from in Scotland, the one TV programme that was made by Border telly was Mr & Mrs … that was their claim to fame and in 200 years’ time Mr & Mrs needs to be there.

“It is our role to look after the whole lot and not make those judgments that Mr & Mrs is not worth keeping.”

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/nov/29/we-need-mr-mrs-in-200-years-why-the-bfi-is-saving-100000-old-tv-shows
Last edited by Brekkie on 29 November 2016 9:50pm - 2 times in total
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DVB Cornwall
Presumably this will take the form of a UK ' Library of Congress ' given time. I presume when companies fold it will be de rigueur to hand over all non commercial archive to it. I would expect the BBC (and possibly Channel 4) to hand over material as a matter of course as a publicly owned body.

Access will be key, presumably this will be available on payment of a fee for research purposes and also to the industry as a whole too. Public access via online channels will be difficult as there will inevitably be mass interest in this if it was opened via online channels. Server capacity will be enormous to maintain this..
Last edited by DVB Cornwall on 29 November 2016 9:49pm
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VMPhil
I like how the whole debate rests on whether Mr & Mrs is worth keeping.
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Brekkie
I just like the idea of children in two hundred years being forced to study it. It's like our revenge for those Shakespeare lessons.
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A former member
Could this also results in BBC and ITV actually repeating stuff? I keep forgetting TV stations have moved over to newer formats and its highly possible ITV and others dont have the means to broadcast older content?
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Neil Jones Founding member
I just like the idea of children in two hundred years being forced to study it. It's like our revenge for those Shakespeare lessons.


Shakespeare will continue to be relevant in 200 years, if he can last 400 years he can last another 200. Unless somebody actually can prove once and for all he didn't write any of his stuff.

Mr & Mrs on the other hand... Could be used as a historical source of "how we viewed TV 200 years ago" type essays. Maybe I watch too much sci-fi but I think it may be possible in the future to "watch" 13 episodes of something in two seconds without all that sitting on your arse staring at a box lark.
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Brekkie
No, it's about archiving and in this case archiving content of arguably very little value. It may make using clips or the odd episode in the context of say a theme night or a tribute easier, but no reason to expect 40-50 year old shows on our screens. The BBC isn't that skint yet.
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DVB Cornwall
Just looking at the practicalities of this exercise, considering the apparant fragile nature of at least some of the items ....

100000 Programmes @ 30mins each (assumed as a reasonable average length of a programme, this could be low) = 50000 hours
50000 hours @ 35 hrs a week = 1428 weeks (assuming a 7 hr day over a normal M-F work week)
1428 weeks = 27.5 Years

To do this in a reasonable time frame of say 3 years, it'll need around 10 simultaneous workflows allowing for inevitable snags.

Data capacity ...
A standard 30min iPlayer file encoded at 1500kbps = 315MB
100000 programmes 31.5 TB for a single copy of each.
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Whataday Founding member
Isn't TV-am an active archive which is already fully digitised?
RE
Rex
I just like the idea of children in two hundred years being forced to study it. It's like our revenge for those Shakespeare lessons.

GCSE History question in 2162 - In what ways has the BBC and ITV shaped the landscape of television over the years?


As Brekkie said, it's archiving content more likely to have been an afterthought - possibly being used in the future for productive and educational proposes? What other purposes does the BFI have with regards to storing archive programming, with this scheme?
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A former member
Just looking at the practicalities of this exercise, considering the apparant fragile nature of at least some of the items ....

100000 Programmes @ 30mins each (assumed as a reasonable average length of a programme, this could be low) = 50000 hours
50000 hours @ 35 hrs a week = 1428 weeks (assuming a 7 hr day over a normal M-F work week)
1428 weeks = 27.5 Years

To do this in a reasonable time frame of say 3 years, it'll need around 10 simultaneous workflows allowing for inevitable snags. .


Are we not at the stage where there could just ram in the tape every 10mins and have over 20 machines recording at once?


Isn't TV-am an active archive which is already fully digitised?

Its not, but the company that behide has uploaded clips.
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DVB Cornwall
Agreed IF the items are intact and are catalogued. The rubrick infers that this isn't the case of a significantly high proportion of the proposed material. In addition if this is to be THE archive of record, then the whole archiving process will need to be supervised more or less continually.

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