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I think the last paragraph is true, since by all accounts he still managed to get good audiences at The Embassy Club, and I believe that he was still in demand (not least by Madonna, reportedly a big fan!
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Probably because he could do a mean impression of Morrisey:
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nwtv2003 posted:
From what I've read so far many people aren't fans of Bernard Manning or his material, and that's fair enough, I'm not his biggest fan either. What I will say there are people of an older generation who grew up with his humour, most likely in the 1960's and the 1970's who found it funny as at the time it was rather normal, as other comedians were the same too, hence forth the popularity of Granada's The Comedians, or The Wheeltappers.
Say what you like about Mr Manning but for many people today it is of a great loss to the Club circuit.
Say what you like about Mr Manning but for many people today it is of a great loss to the Club circuit.
I think the last paragraph is true, since by all accounts he still managed to get good audiences at The Embassy Club, and I believe that he was still in demand (not least by Madonna, reportedly a big fan!
)
Probably because he could do a mean impression of Morrisey:
click me
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# Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes/Doesn't mean we go around commiting hate cri--iimes # (Avenue Q - go and see it!)
On a forum such as this you're only ever going to be shot down in flames for having an opinion. Manning told plenty of jokes about white men too. If you don't like him, don't watch him. Simple as that. Remember that Mrs Merton interview? The crux of the show was Ahern trying to get Manning to "apologise" for his act and being racist. Noone tried to shame Richard Wilson for being a miserable lefty. If a comedian can become a millionaire through "not being funny" then long live not being funny.
When I saw this thread I thought "bugger ... really wanted to meet him". Noone can please everyone - what one person may find funny another will find crude and offensive. That's life. Deal with it. Manning served his audience for decades by giving them what they wanted. A tragic but inevitable loss. RIP, Bernard.
On a forum such as this you're only ever going to be shot down in flames for having an opinion. Manning told plenty of jokes about white men too. If you don't like him, don't watch him. Simple as that. Remember that Mrs Merton interview? The crux of the show was Ahern trying to get Manning to "apologise" for his act and being racist. Noone tried to shame Richard Wilson for being a miserable lefty. If a comedian can become a millionaire through "not being funny" then long live not being funny.
When I saw this thread I thought "bugger ... really wanted to meet him". Noone can please everyone - what one person may find funny another will find crude and offensive. That's life. Deal with it. Manning served his audience for decades by giving them what they wanted. A tragic but inevitable loss. RIP, Bernard.
GS
Well the 70s were the 70s Simon; you and I remember them no differently.
It was indeed a different time and the world was larger. People did stop and stare at black people who moved into their area. Those obvious racial differences were laughed at in such *classics* as, "Mind your Language" and "Love thy Neighbour". I remember the episode where the man thought the darkie would rape his wife, as that's what he thought darkies do.
Was it really a programme about how silly white people's preconceived ideas are? Perhaps, but the things that were said to get to that "belly laugh" were quite dreadful. There is such a thing as laughter to relieve tension.
In any event, you can't change the fact that we live in a multicultural world, country, city, town. You wouldn't stop and stare these days, would you? Even the creators of those programmes have distanced themselves from them, and they certainly don't stand up to repeats now.
Nor can one unlearn that it isn't right to point and stare at people *just because* they are different.
I hope that, whatever else, on points of principle you can always trust me.
Gavin Scott
Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
Trust you, Gavin. Ask yourself this - why is it that many 1970s TV sitcoms are as popular as they were then? Because they weren't subject to the politically correct sanitisation that is these day mandatory, and therefore produced the genuine belly laughs. Part of the reason for Little Britain's success is because it refused to pander to Noughties sensitivities.
Most people who enjoy Fawlty Towers, On The Buses and the like roared with laughter but are well-adjusted enough not to have become bullies or bigots as a result. And much as I can't stand political correctness, I can't stand these types either.
Most people who enjoy Fawlty Towers, On The Buses and the like roared with laughter but are well-adjusted enough not to have become bullies or bigots as a result. And much as I can't stand political correctness, I can't stand these types either.
Well the 70s were the 70s Simon; you and I remember them no differently.
It was indeed a different time and the world was larger. People did stop and stare at black people who moved into their area. Those obvious racial differences were laughed at in such *classics* as, "Mind your Language" and "Love thy Neighbour". I remember the episode where the man thought the darkie would rape his wife, as that's what he thought darkies do.
Was it really a programme about how silly white people's preconceived ideas are? Perhaps, but the things that were said to get to that "belly laugh" were quite dreadful. There is such a thing as laughter to relieve tension.
In any event, you can't change the fact that we live in a multicultural world, country, city, town. You wouldn't stop and stare these days, would you? Even the creators of those programmes have distanced themselves from them, and they certainly don't stand up to repeats now.
Nor can one unlearn that it isn't right to point and stare at people *just because* they are different.
I hope that, whatever else, on points of principle you can always trust me.
:-(
A former member
I watch the Whole 1st season of Love thy Neighbour" and it GOES BOTH WAYS!!!
It wasn't all one way the white and black bad mouth each other!
It wasn't all one way the white and black bad mouth each other!
GS
But that doesn't mean to say that you can't dislike the fact.
Perhaps Bernard Manning's material spoke to that part of you.
You're absolutely right, Paul, you are free to like or dislike what you choose.
Gavin Scott
Founding member
Paul_S_UK posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
In any event, you can't change the fact that we live in a multicultural world, country, city, town
But that doesn't mean to say that you can't dislike the fact.
Perhaps Bernard Manning's material spoke to that part of you.
You're absolutely right, Paul, you are free to like or dislike what you choose.
PS
But that doesn't mean to say that you can't dislike the fact.
Perhaps Bernard Manning's material spoke to that part of you.
You're absolutely right, Paul, you are free to like or dislike what you choose.
Maybe...maybe.
Gavin Scott posted:
Paul_S_UK posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
In any event, you can't change the fact that we live in a multicultural world, country, city, town
But that doesn't mean to say that you can't dislike the fact.
Perhaps Bernard Manning's material spoke to that part of you.
You're absolutely right, Paul, you are free to like or dislike what you choose.
Maybe...maybe.
JO
Well his business nearly did with that turkey factory incident.
Bernard Manning, what coudl you say about him? Fat, ugly, offensive, purposely racist. Ye she may have been a product of his time but that's not to say that those in the 1970's were right anyway.
Till Death Do Us Part is an exception to the race thing in a sense that the programem was created to show the ignorance of racism, the writers in a recent interview said they cringe everytime they hear the word c**n.
Warren Mitchell even said he had a Memeber of the public come up to him saying "yeah nice one taking the p*ss out of the c**ns", Warren Mitchell replied "No we're taking the p*ss out of idiots like you".
Kind of sums it up, the 70's were full of idioticy (sp)
davidhorman posted:
Gavin Esler has just announced on Newsnight that Bernard
Matthews
has died 
David
David
Well his business nearly did with that turkey factory incident.
Bernard Manning, what coudl you say about him? Fat, ugly, offensive, purposely racist. Ye she may have been a product of his time but that's not to say that those in the 1970's were right anyway.
Till Death Do Us Part is an exception to the race thing in a sense that the programem was created to show the ignorance of racism, the writers in a recent interview said they cringe everytime they hear the word c**n.
Warren Mitchell even said he had a Memeber of the public come up to him saying "yeah nice one taking the p*ss out of the c**ns", Warren Mitchell replied "No we're taking the p*ss out of idiots like you".
Kind of sums it up, the 70's were full of idioticy (sp)
TV
We wouldn't stop and stare, no, but speaking as one who knows rural Devon does, in many ways, live up to the popular stereotype. The white monoculture prevails; we do have ethnic minorities of course but with their restricted numbers they do stand out, whereas they wouldn't in London or Birmingham.
Gavin Scott posted:
In any event, you can't change the fact that we live in a multicultural world, country, city, town. You wouldn't stop and stare these days, would you?
We wouldn't stop and stare, no, but speaking as one who knows rural Devon does, in many ways, live up to the popular stereotype. The white monoculture prevails; we do have ethnic minorities of course but with their restricted numbers they do stand out, whereas they wouldn't in London or Birmingham.