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The strike-bound Pops (November 2014)

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SW
Steve Williams
The Top of the Pops repeat run on BBC4 has now been going for three and a half years and I find that remarkable. It is a totally toxic brand, up there with the News of the World and the Liberal Democrats, and the last time they tried a repeat of every episode of Doctor Who on the Beeb, a show with a far bigger fanbase and more obviously repeatable, it lasted three months. Of course, I'm absolutely delighted by this and after they showed an episode David Hamilton taped off the telly two years ago, last night they showed perhaps the most bizarre episode of the programme ever made.

That's because it was made during the BBC strike in November 1979 that also put paid to the Doctor Who story Shada and several other programmes (the Tech Ops website points out the only programme that went out as usual was an episode of Blue Peter because they were launching the appeal that day, while an episode of Crackerjack was performed but not recorded because the audience had already turned up). So while they got two episodes of Pops out, they were made up entirely of repeats and videos and the presenter did everything out of vision. Travis did one we're not seeing, but we did get to see the second episode with Peter Powell.

It really was strange, and the best bit was that BBC4 didn't even make any mention to it being anything out of the oridinary so most viewers last night must have been totally baffled as to what was going on, they must have assumed Peter was stuck in the toilet or had endured some sort of disfigurement. There was a great link where he said Legs and Co were "here", as if they were in the nuclear bunker he was clearly broadcasting from. What really tickled me, though, was the chart rundown - in black and white! Clearly they were using equipment that had last had an outing in the sixties.

The whole thing was quite bizarre and do catch it on iPlayer or the Saturday repeat if you're fascinated by the nooks and crannies of broadcasting. And no, they couldn't use this as a template for Savile and Travis episodes because every time the link is abruptly removed people will be reminded it's because of Savile and Travis. They don't have to show any of them.
DV
DVB Cornwall
see it here ……..

IPLAYER on BBC.CO.UK
28-Nov-2014 @ 20:23
SP
Steve in Pudsey
It's kind of a less slick version of TOTP2
NG
noggin Founding member
. There was a great link where he said Legs and Co were "here", as if they were in the nuclear bunker he was clearly broadcasting from. What really tickled me, though, was the chart rundown - in black and white! Clearly they were using equipment that had last had an outing in the sixties.


Can see why you may have jumped to that conclusion - but it is more likely that the reason it was B&W was that they were using the B&W caption camera that most colour edit suites had (which was used to do simple name captions that were keyed in the edit as well as mechanical VT clocks). If you wanted to add colour to a caption you would have used a colour synthesiser (aka matte generator) to fill the key with a block of electronically generated colour. Fine to generate coloured text from a B&W caption camera, but useless for photos.

They would have needed to use a studio camera (presumably unavailable during a strike) to do colour stills grabs. There were B&W caption cameras in use well into the early 80s (when electronic caption kit arrived)
ST
Stedixon
The Top of the Pops repeat run on BBC4 has now been going for three and a half years and I find that remarkable. It is a totally toxic brand, up there with the News of the World and the Liberal Democrats.


Bit of an OTT statement of it "being toxic". So people involved have been linked to scandals. That doesn't make the brand toxic.
BB
bbcfan2014
The Top of the Pops repeat run on BBC4 has now been going for three and a half years and I find that remarkable. It is a totally toxic brand, up there with the News of the World and the Liberal Democrats.


Bit of an OTT statement of it "being toxic". So people involved have been linked to scandals. That doesn't make the brand toxic.


I agree with the always-fascinating comments of Steve. Since the revelations of 2012 onwards, it's remarkable they still bring it back at Xmas...
CY
cylon6
Steve is wrong. Top Of The Pops became toxic when Andi Peters was put in charge of it. If TOTP was a toxic brand we wouldn't get Christmas Day/New Year specials each year, TOTP2 and people watching the repeats. Sadly The BBC is even more toxic than TOTP in some people's eyes. After the highs of The Olympics in 2012 the Savile revelations knocked everybody for six.
IS
Inspector Sands
Steve is wrong. Top Of The Pops became toxic when Andi Peters was put in charge of it.

Why did that make it 'toxic'? A change of format that didn't go that well is hardly on the same scale as the 'antics' that some of it's presenters, including the programmes most famous one got up to
:-(
A former member
The music change in 1993 was far more toxic.
IS
Inspector Sands
The music change in 1993 was far more toxic.

Seems there's another person who doesn't understand the word toxic...
Steve Williams and bilky asko gave kudos
MA
Markymark
. There was a great link where he said Legs and Co were "here", as if they were in the nuclear bunker he was clearly broadcasting from. What really tickled me, though, was the chart rundown - in black and white! Clearly they were using equipment that had last had an outing in the sixties.


Can see why you may have jumped to that conclusion - but it is more likely that the reason it was B&W was that they were using the B&W caption camera that most colour edit suites had (which was used to do simple name captions that were keyed in the edit as well as mechanical VT clocks). If you wanted to add colour to a caption you would have used a colour synthesiser (aka matte generator) to fill the key with a block of electronically generated colour. Fine to generate coloured text from a B&W caption camera, but useless for photos.


Which was of course exactly how the BBC 1 globe, (and many other idents on BBC and ITV)
were colourised from the late 60s, until well into the 80s.

Demo here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfpEZDeVo00
NG
noggin Founding member
Yep - having watched it I'm pretty certain the B&W stills were from a B&W Edit caption camera (sometimes called a TelOp) The band captions similarly - but with synthesized colour.

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