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The Apprentice moves to BBC1 (August 2006)

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AN
Andrew Founding member
Yet again BBC2 are unable to keep any of their own hit programmes, as The Apprentice moves to BBC1
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,,1858365,00.html

I can't see the point in this, everybody can receive BBC2 as much as they can BBC1!
JE
Jenny Founding member
Media bloody Guardian again. I must get that bugmenot extension for Firefox...
CY
cylon6
BBC2 is being destroyed!! BBC1 are just raiding them and taking all of their top shows. I AM SO ANGRY ABOUT THIS!!
PC
Paul Clark
So, BBC TWO have let their sister channel swipe another hit programme from them...

If you've got a winner on your hands, doesn't make much sense to give it away to another channel, even if it is still on the Beeb.

If this continues, how can the channel have any long-standing gems in the future?

To whoever let this decision go ahead, I say: You're fired.
CY
cylon6
Paul Clark posted:
So, BBC TWO have let their sister channel swipe another hit programme from them...

If you've got a winner on your hands, doesn't make much sense to give it away to another channel, even if it is still on the Beeb.

If this continues, how can the channel have any long-standing gems in the future?

To whoever let this decision go ahead, I say: You're fired.


BBC2 don't let BBC1 take these shows, they seem to be taken by force.
BR
Brekkie
All it's doing is papering over the cracks of BBC1. Certainly alot of their Friday night comedy line up has come via BBC2!


Anyhow, it gives the press the chance to use their "The Apprentice gets promoted" puns!
IS
Inspector Sands
cylon6 posted:
BBC2 is being destroyed!! BBC1 are just raiding them and taking all of their top shows. I AM SO ANGRY ABOUT THIS!!


'One BBC'!

Why does it matter that much? I'm sure the bods at the BBC don't find it a problem that a good, popular series has been promoted (although I've never understood why a programme on BBC1 will get more viewers than it did on BBC2 after alll these years!). It really makes no odds to us the viewer what channle it's on, there's no real viewer loyalty towards BBC2 or BBC1

Besides it's not the first programme to make that move and it certainly won't be the last. It's a well deserved promotion for a top programme
:-(
A former member
Inspector Sands posted:
'One BBC'!

Why does it matter that much? I'm sure the bods at the BBC don't find it a problem that a good, popular series has been promoted (although I've never understood why a programme on BBC1 will get more viewers than it did on BBC2 after alll these years!). It really makes no odds to us the viewer what channle it's on, there's no real viewer loyalty towards BBC2 or BBC1.


True. Anyone who can get BBC2 can get BBC1 in theory, so it shouldn't really matter in terms of viewers. But it is fair to say that BBC2 is generally classed as inferior to BBC1, as BBC1 is the flagship channel and moving successful programmes on BBC2 to BBC1 just proves this division. It should be left where it is.
AM
amosc100
Let's put it this way there have been many programmes that have switched between the 2 BBC channels over the last (almost) 40 years. One of the biggest example of switching from BBC2 to BBC1 was Match of the Day, whilst the other way (most recently) was Top Of The Pops (also didn't TOTP2 make its debut on BBC1 when it shown shown either before or after Due South on Saturday early evenings!!)
CY
cylon6
Inspector Sands posted:
cylon6 posted:
BBC2 is being destroyed!! BBC1 are just raiding them and taking all of their top shows. I AM SO ANGRY ABOUT THIS!!


'One BBC'!

Why does it matter that much? I'm sure the bods at the BBC don't find it a problem that a good, popular series has been promoted (although I've never understood why a programme on BBC1 will get more viewers than it did on BBC2 after alll these years!). It really makes no odds to us the viewer what channle it's on, there's no real viewer loyalty towards BBC2 or BBC1

Besides it's not the first programme to make that move and it certainly won't be the last. It's a well deserved promotion for a top programme


Because BBC2 is being weakened as a channel, this helps BBC1 but how does it help BBC2. Each channel should have its signature shows that define them, how can BBC2 have a strong identity when its best shows are constantly moving to BBC1? 'The Apprentice' and 'Who Do You Think You Are?' have gone, if they lose Top Gear as well they're screwed!!
PC
Paul Clark
cylon6 posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
cylon6 posted:
BBC2 is being destroyed!! BBC1 are just raiding them and taking all of their top shows. I AM SO ANGRY ABOUT THIS!!


'One BBC'!

Why does it matter that much? I'm sure the bods at the BBC don't find it a problem that a good, popular series has been promoted (although I've never understood why a programme on BBC1 will get more viewers than it did on BBC2 after alll these years!). It really makes no odds to us the viewer what channle it's on, there's no real viewer loyalty towards BBC2 or BBC1

Besides it's not the first programme to make that move and it certainly won't be the last. It's a well deserved promotion for a top programme


Because BBC2 is being weakened as a channel, this helps BBC1 but how does it help BBC2. Each channel should have its signature shows that define them, how can BBC2 have a strong identity when its best shows are constantly moving to BBC1? 'The Apprentice' and 'Who Do You Think You Are?' have gone, if they lose Top Gear as well they're screwed!!


BBC TWO should never lose Top Gear; I would class it very much a 'signature show' as you put, and I honestly don't think it would fit in with BBC ONE's programming in a similar slot.

This is why the only time you'll ever see it on the other channel is as a repeated, signed programme in the late hours.
IS
Inspector Sands
cylon6 posted:

Because BBC2 is being weakened as a channel, this helps BBC1 but how does it help BBC2. Each channel should have its signature shows that define them, how can BBC2 have a strong identity when its best shows are constantly moving to BBC1? 'The Apprentice' and 'Who Do You Think You Are?' have gone, if they lose Top Gear as well they're screwed!!


But the BBC as a whole does better out of it. BBC2 will get more new programmes, it along with 3 and 4, should be the channels that take on and develop new ideas and then pass them up to 1. There's another apprentice just round the corner

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