TV Home Forum

BBC Two 2018 Revamp

New ident ‘Discovery’ - p89

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
NG
noggin Founding member

{Devil's advocate}
As the populations served by those nations are comparable to some English regions, are license payers in England not already subsidising those in the nations? A viewer in Scotland gets a lot more "regional" content than I do in Yorkshire, yet we pay the same license fee.

Though of course in an English region the services you get are more local than, say, Scotland. The two Scottish BBC radio and two TV stations* cover a large geographic area (with a few short opt outs). Whereas in Yorkshire there's several radio stations and there's two tv regions.


It's swings and roundabouts, my BBC local station covers a large area, but it's still better than someone in Lerwick having their local station coming from Glasgow for 99% of the day


*one only part license fee funded


Though you could argue that BBC One and BBC Two Scotland are 'more local' because they provide more BBC Scotland content than just the English regional opt-out slots... (depends whether you define 'more local' as 'more local content' or 'content made more locally')
PF
PFML84
Not sure why they can't put BBC 2 NI HD on satellite. If they are modifying the FEC of one transponder to fit BBC 2 Wales HD on, why not do the same for their other transponder so BBC 2 NI HD can fit in there?
IS
Inspector Sands
As I say it's a toss up between quantity, quality and localness.

Scotland gets more of its own programming and its better quality than an English region's. However some parts of Scotland are nearer Norway than Glasgow but have the same 'local' programmes as someone in Melrose - except for 10 minutes a day.

But in England we have local services - within 50 miles - for 13 or 14 hours a day, some places more. TV less so but what you do get is more 'local' too
MI
Mike516
Not sure why they can't put BBC 2 NI HD on satellite. If they are modifying the FEC of one transponder to fit BBC 2 Wales HD on, why not do the same for their other transponder so BBC 2 NI HD can fit in there?

Both transponders switching to FEC of 3/4 - not 5/6 as indicated in BBC documentation. Although ITV already uses these parameters and gets six HD channels per transponder, the BBC will only carry five on each.

Two transponders, each with a new, fifth slot means one slot for BBC Two Wales HD and one slot in the new year for BBC Scotland HD.

The satellite changes are due to happen after BBC One closedown tonight.
HA
harshy Founding member
My box failed to auto correct the fec therefore no signals from Aunty Beeb Sad
IS
Inspector Sands
My box failed to auto correct the fec therefore no signals from Aunty Beeb Sad

Oh fec! Laughing
harshy, DE88 and Spencer gave kudos
CY
cylon6
a516 posted:
Ste71 posted:
Is BBC Two Wales HD going to be available via Freesat?

Ps the new idents are amazing Thumbs up

Yes!

The BBC has confirmed:
BBC Two Wales HD on all platforms
BBC Two NI HD not via satellite.

BBC2 NI HD won’t be on Sky?
PF
PFML84
Nope, they haven't got the room for it on satellite. Well, they would if they make different changes to the ones recently made, but they don't want to do that, so NI misses out.
MR
mr_vivian
a516 posted:
Ste71 posted:
Is BBC Two Wales HD going to be available via Freesat?

Ps the new idents are amazing Thumbs up

Yes!

The BBC has confirmed:
BBC Two Wales HD on all platforms
BBC Two NI HD not via satellite.


Do you know if BBC 2 NI HD will be on cable?
MI
Mike516
a516 posted:
Ste71 posted:
Is BBC Two Wales HD going to be available via Freesat?

Ps the new idents are amazing Thumbs up

Yes!

The BBC has confirmed:
BBC Two Wales HD on all platforms
BBC Two NI HD not via satellite.


Do you know if BBC 2 NI HD will be on cable?

Virgin Media is still to be confirmed. While the BBC has control over satellite and terrestrial bandwidth, it doesn't have any direct control on cable, so will need to negotiate access.
CT
CentralTV
Joe posted:
The unique element of this is the melding of trailers and idents together, the whole channel just flows now, perhaps for the first time I can recall on a mainstream service. Bonkers concept in theory but it works.


I take it you don’t watch much ITV then!

Yep, although ITV ditched that nice little feature a year or so ago
BR
Brekkie
I don't even know if they still did it since the MeteoGroup rebrand but the weather after Newsnight used to begin with BBC2 branding (looking awful with a 2 cut out). Have they done something with the new look or does it just carry the generic BBC Weather branding now?

Newer posts