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BBC1 to drop Saturday night Lottery draws

(November 2016)

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HC
Hatton Cross
JCB posted:
Haha, you've just reminded me that the BBC also made a bit of a thing about the Saturday night draw also being simulcast live on Radio 1 as well. Seemed an odd outlet for it at the time, and still hard to make sense of now.


It's part of the wallpaper now but when you stop and think about it everything about The National Lottery being on the BBC at all is a bit dodgy.


Not totally sure I agree with that. Sure, it is gambling, but it's gambling run by the state and the Lottery has actually been a force for good in terms of the money it has raised for good causes.


Sorry, but it's not 'run by the state'. It's run by a subsidiarity of the Ontario Teachers Pension Fund (Camelot Lotteries UK Ltd).

They run the games under licence and laws of the national lottery act - which is overseen by the office of the lottery regulator (itsself a splinter faction of the gambling commission). However Oflot appear to ignore the players interests and let Camelot do what they want.
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
Is this why The National Lottery Who Dares Wins - has been replaced not even half-way through the series by Michael McIntyre's Big Show?? Will The National Lottery Who Dares Wins return in the New Year with all references to The National Lottery blurred out - as it was with The National Lottery People's Quiz?? Or was Michael McIntyre scheduled to be on BBC1 just before Xmas anyway?

This is a real shame. I hope the quizes continue, apart from The National Lottery In It To Win It - that has been on for long enough.
SW
Steve Williams
The whole reason we didn't go down the whole 'full draw programme instead of an insert' was because an unnamed BBC executive (Alan Yentob) wanted to include the lottery draw show in the BBC One Saturday night viewing figures/audience share against ITV. If it had been a stand alone 90sec insert, BARB wouldn't have counted it.


Wasn't just that, though - I think there was the consensus that the lottery would be such a big deal that it would totally overshadow any existing show. The main reason why Anthea Turner and Gordon Kennedy were chosen as presenters was because they were low profile figures and they wanted the lottery to be the star, not the presenters (although of course eighteen months in Anthea was the most famous woman on television and ITV poached her for an enormous amount of money).

Is this why The National Lottery Who Dares Wins - has been replaced not even half-way through the series by Michael McIntyre's Big Show?? Will The National Lottery Who Dares Wins return in the New Year with all references to The National Lottery blurred out - as it was with The National Lottery People's Quiz?? Or was Michael McIntyre scheduled to be on BBC1 just before Xmas anyway?


The new contract hasn't even started yet, hence why the draws are still on BBC1 at the moment. The latter is correct, Who Dares Wins will be back at some point but all the lottery quizzes can be shown in dribs and drabs depending on what else is in the schedule. In It To Win It is famously shoved out whenever there's time and episodes go out ages after they've been filmed. They've filmed loads of episodes of Pointless Celebrities but for whatever reason they've stopped and are showing repeats at the moment.
BR
Brekkie
Who Dares Wins is also advertising for future contestants so it will continue regardless.

The wider media have picked up the story today and confirm it'll be from January with the results shown on BBC1 after the news as they are on other nights. The National Lottery Awards will also remain on BBC1.

The usual speil about "digital" platforms and will be interesting to see if it has any impact on the numbers playing.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/bbc1-lose-national-lottery-lotto-9327365
https://inews.co.uk/essentials/culture/television/national-lottery-draw-moves-bbc1-iplayer-facebook-live/
VM
VMPhil
'Digital' has to be the most reused and recycled buzzword in any industry
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NB
nbafan89
Happy memories of watching the National Lottery Live show with Bob Monkhouse and wondering when, if ever, they'd actually get to the live draw! Proper event television back in the day, with the camera sweep, Bob walking off the logo, pyros going off to the sound of Alan Dedicoat. Us at home all gripping onto our little pink tickets for dear life, Dad losing his down the back of the sofa and trying to find it in time! Laughing

How time's change.

what abut this infamous moment complete with I know i'm a sinner but make me a winner intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa1jUkqP5JY&t=100s
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
The BBC's Genome project has the original schedule that night: http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1996-11-30

Draw at 7:50pm, Casualty at 8:05pm and then the news (with National Lottery Update) at 8:55pm and a film from 9:15pm. Obviously we know from the much posted YouTube clip they went back to the draw straight after Casualty as opposed to going to the news.

What happened with the rest of the schedule that night? Think it's safe to say the Lottery Update didn't happen or at least not in the original 20 minute window, did it appear after the film? Was the news bulletin cut short by five minutes or so or was the entire schedule pushed back?
VM
VMPhil
There was a bit during the Bob Monkhouse documentary on Gold where they showed a clip of Bob talking to the audience after Casualty had started. The BBC logo and copyright was still overlaid on screen ISTR.
SW
Steve Williams
What happened with the rest of the schedule that night? Think it's safe to say the Lottery Update didn't happen or at least not in the original 20 minute window, did it appear after the film? Was the news bulletin cut short by five minutes or so or was the entire schedule pushed back?


By that point the lottery update was only the announcer reading out the results again, not any additional studio business as was the case for the first few months. Everything else just ran five minutes late. You don't shorten the news!
DE
deejay
What a fabulous presenter Bob Monkhouse was. Hard to think of someone who'd remain so cool, collected and funny these days.
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WH
Whataday Founding member
I can't imagine the audience staying for anyone else either.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
What a fabulous presenter Bob Monkhouse was. Hard to think of someone who'd remain so cool, collected and funny these days.


Indeed. Great comedian and presenter, very sadly missed, nearly 13 years since he died. Of course he was used to doing live TV and things going wrong as he'd spent five years (and 18ish months on his second stint) live week in week out on The Golden Shot, so for the lottery machine to pack up on his watch was quite fortunate timing.

You only have to watch the quiz and shopping TV channels when the phone lines break down to see how many of those presenters are flapping around clearly looking quite unsure of how they're going to fill the next x minutes without being able to shout a phone number, a quantity or catalogue number out.
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