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BBC1 to drop Saturday night Lottery draws

(November 2016)

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CY
cylon6
What will happen to the quizzes though?
SW
Steve Williams
RDJ posted:
Surely the BBC would not want to break its ties with the National Lottery, as it's only thanks to them they can really justify the big money gameshows.


Not really, Prized Apart last year had a prize of £100,000 and that had nothing to do with the lottery. I know that was the prize for the entire series but the lottery quizzes don't give away that much money every week. The prizes are bigger than Pointless but they're primetime shows with bigger budget.

Also back then when people stuck with the BBC or ITV for the night having effectively a 15-minute break in the schedule wasn't a bad thing.


Well, indeed, and even now I enjoy Who Dares Wins, I'd watch it if it didn't have the lottery in it. When the Thunderball draw comes on it's the ideal opportunity to put the kettle on or go to the toilet. It's no greater imposition than an ad break.

Some lottery quizzes are good, some are bad, same as any other type of show. The ratings illustrate that, the good ones get decent ratings and continue, the bad ones don't and get axed. It's nothing to do with the draws themselves.
PI
picard

Surely after 22 years, the audience has worked out they always do them at the end of the show.


But it's Saturday night, put something else/good on. Laughing
FL
flaziola
Good news for Challenge if the game shows continue. It'll make them much easier to show without having to edit out references to The National Lottery.
JO
Johnr
Even the BBC had to do that once when the People's Quiz was such a flop the Lottery pulled their support from it!
SW
Steve Williams
Johnr posted:
Even the BBC had to do that once when the People's Quiz was such a flop the Lottery pulled their support from it!


This has been mentioned before, but when you see some of the stuff that goes out under the branding, it's hard to imagine Camelot suddenly deciding that was unworthy of the lottery. What was actually the case is that because it was flopping BBC1 demoted it from mid-evening to teatime, around 6pm. The lottery draw can't be before 8pm cos they're still selling tickets, so they could no longer show the lottery in it. That's why.
JO
Jon
It was still National Lottery branded.

I've never really understood if the Lottery is funding the prize money for these gameshows?
GE
thegeek Founding member
RDJ posted:
If we get the same pre-rec's as the Wednesday draws then surely this must be an end of an era for the Voice of the Balls, 'Deadly' Alan Dedicoat.

Perhaps he'll enjoy having a Saturday evening off!

I had a look at one of the EuroMillions draws on YouTube - they don't even bother with clips for the numbers, it's just a prerecorded "and the third number is..."
BR
Brekkie
Jon posted:
It was still National Lottery branded.

I've never really understood if the Lottery is funding the prize money for these gameshows?

Yes, I always assumed Camelot part funded them, hence how In it to Win It could give away up to £100k when other BBC quizzes rarely topped £10k.
HC
Hatton Cross
No. Camelot had a say in which quiz format the draws were wrapped around. That's all. No budget contributions, no prize fund payments.

For a time, Peter Estell former series producer of Wogan (amougst other shows) was Camelots executive producer of the lottery quizzes and televised draws.

IIRC, the BBC maxium prize for a peak time show is £100k. Daytime is £10k - but of course, factored into the format has to be that the winners prize to be much lower, or indeed a no prize win at all.
WL
W1LL
No. Camelot had a say in which quiz format the draws were wrapped around. That's all. No budget contributions, no prize fund payments.

For a time, Peter Estell former series producer of Wogan (amougst other shows) was Camelots executive producer of the lottery quizzes and televised draws.

IIRC, the BBC maxium prize for a peak time show is £100k. Daytime is £10k - but of course, factored into the format has to be that the winners prize to be much lower, or indeed a no prize win at all.

Not uncommon to see the Pointless jackpot go over £10k, though I suppose it doesn't count given how its a rollover from previous games.
HC
Hatton Cross
Also see: Eggheads.
Rollovers are allowed to grow beyond the £10k usual limit - as long as the daily prize added per show, is relatively low. .

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