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Hi all, got back from my holiday a few days ago and discovered BBC Prime has changed to BBC entertainment (which was in 2009 according to wiki)

Are we able to access BBC entertainment, lifestyle, knowledge in the UK? and if so what are the frequencies?
JA
james
Hi all, got back from my holiday a few days ago and discovered BBC Prime has changed to BBC entertainment (which was in 2009 according to wiki)

Are we able to access BBC entertainment, lifestyle, knowledge in the UK? and if so what are the frequencies?


Unfortunately not. BBC Entertainment and Knowledge are not FTA anymore. BBC World can still be accessed on Astra 19.2 for free though.
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TV Matters
james posted:
Hi all, got back from my holiday a few days ago and discovered BBC Prime has changed to BBC entertainment (which was in 2009 according to wiki)

Are we able to access BBC entertainment, lifestyle, knowledge in the UK? and if so what are the frequencies?


Unfortunately not. BBC Entertainment and Knowledge are not FTA anymore. BBC World can still be accessed on Astra 19.2 for free though.


Ok, cheers for that
JA
JAS84
james posted:
Hi all, got back from my holiday a few days ago and discovered BBC Prime has changed to BBC entertainment (which was in 2009 according to wiki)

Are we able to access BBC entertainment, lifestyle, knowledge in the UK? and if so what are the frequencies?


Unfortunately not. BBC Entertainment and Knowledge are not FTA anymore. BBC World can still be accessed on Astra 19.2 for free though.
The old Sky analogue satellite position? Strange, it wasn't there when Sky was. Confused
NG
noggin Founding member
JAS84 posted:
james posted:
Hi all, got back from my holiday a few days ago and discovered BBC Prime has changed to BBC entertainment (which was in 2009 according to wiki)

Are we able to access BBC entertainment, lifestyle, knowledge in the UK? and if so what are the frequencies?


Unfortunately not. BBC Entertainment and Knowledge are not FTA anymore. BBC World can still be accessed on Astra 19.2 for free though.
The old Sky analogue satellite position? Strange, it wasn't there when Sky was. Confused


Not really. When Sky were there all the broadcasts at 19.2 (with the exception of some radio and TV sound) were analogue. That meant one channel per transponder pretty much. So you had around 60 analogue channels (quite a few encrypted, a few in D2MAC rather than PAL)

Now there are lots of digital channels at 19.2 (just as there are at 28.2, 13.0 and most other popular slots - analogue is really only in use for legacy territories with very high analogue penetration - basically Germany I think) This means you can have hundreds of channels in the same space - it's what drove the switch from analogue to digital.

This means that there are far more channels - as you can carry lots of SD services on a single HD transponder (and a smaller number of HD services)

When Sky were analogue and on the Astra 1 satellite at 19.2 - most broadcasting was analogue and BBC World was on an Intelsat and/or Hotbird.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E#Channels might help explain - it shows the timeline of each transponder at 19.2

These days BBC World is a common channel in the basic line-up of satellite services across Europe - just as Sky News and CNNi also are. This means you'll find BBC World on most European popular positions (19.2, 13.0, 4.8, 0.8W etc.) - though it may be encrypted. *** EDIT TO REMOVE 28.2 TYPO ***
Last edited by noggin on 28 August 2011 11:28am
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Gary McEwan
JAS84 posted:
james posted:
Hi all, got back from my holiday a few days ago and discovered BBC Prime has changed to BBC entertainment (which was in 2009 according to wiki)

Are we able to access BBC entertainment, lifestyle, knowledge in the UK? and if so what are the frequencies?


Unfortunately not. BBC Entertainment and Knowledge are not FTA anymore. BBC World can still be accessed on Astra 19.2 for free though.
The old Sky analogue satellite position? Strange, it wasn't there when Sky was. Confused


Not really. When Sky were there all the broadcasts at 19.2 (with the exception of some radio and TV sound) were analogue. That meant one channel per transponder pretty much. So you had around 60 analogue channels (quite a few encrypted, a few in D2MAC rather than PAL)

Now there are lots of digital channels at 19.2 (just as there are at 28.2, 13.0 and most other popular slots - analogue is really only in use for legacy territories with very high analogue penetration - basically Germany I think) This means you can have hundreds of channels in the same space - it's what drove the switch from analogue to digital.

This means that there are far more channels - as you can carry lots of SD services on a single HD transponder (and a smaller number of HD services)

When Sky were analogue and on the Astra 1 satellite at 19.2 - most broadcasting was analogue and BBC World was on an Intelsat and/or Hotbird.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E#Channels might help explain - it shows the timeline of each transponder at 19.2

These days BBC World is a common channel in the basic line-up of satellite services across Europe - just as Sky News and CNNi also are. This means you'll find BBC World on most European popular positions (19.2, 28.2, 13.0, 4.8, 0.8W etc.) - though it may be encrypted.


BBC World on 28.2? I've tried searching but got nothing.....
DV
dvboy
BBC World on 28.2? I've tried searching but got nothing.....


It's not. 28.2e is aimed primarily at the UK and Ireland.
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james
JAS84 posted:
james posted:
Hi all, got back from my holiday a few days ago and discovered BBC Prime has changed to BBC entertainment (which was in 2009 according to wiki)

Are we able to access BBC entertainment, lifestyle, knowledge in the UK? and if so what are the frequencies?


Unfortunately not. BBC Entertainment and Knowledge are not FTA anymore. BBC World can still be accessed on Astra 19.2 for free though.
The old Sky analogue satellite position? Strange, it wasn't there when Sky was. Confused


Not really. When Sky were there all the broadcasts at 19.2 (with the exception of some radio and TV sound) were analogue. That meant one channel per transponder pretty much. So you had around 60 analogue channels (quite a few encrypted, a few in D2MAC rather than PAL)

Now there are lots of digital channels at 19.2 (just as there are at 28.2, 13.0 and most other popular slots - analogue is really only in use for legacy territories with very high analogue penetration - basically Germany I think) This means you can have hundreds of channels in the same space - it's what drove the switch from analogue to digital.

This means that there are far more channels - as you can carry lots of SD services on a single HD transponder (and a smaller number of HD services)

When Sky were analogue and on the Astra 1 satellite at 19.2 - most broadcasting was analogue and BBC World was on an Intelsat and/or Hotbird.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E#Channels might help explain - it shows the timeline of each transponder at 19.2

These days BBC World is a common channel in the basic line-up of satellite services across Europe - just as Sky News and CNNi also are. This means you'll find BBC World on most European popular positions (19.2, 28.2, 13.0, 4.8, 0.8W etc.) - though it may be encrypted.


BBC World on 28.2? I've tried searching but got nothing.....


It is defiantly not on 28.2. Also, if you have a sky set-up your dish would be able to find the other satellites but all sky boxes are programmed only to work with 28.2 and 22.0. Basically if you bought a cheap FTA satellite box (NOT Freesat branded, FTA only) and turned your sky dish around to the other satellites such as 19.2 then you could pick up BBC World News for free.

EDIT : This is the sort of box I am talking about - http://www.maplin.co.uk/satellite-receiver-for-free-digital-tv-222369?c=froogle&u=222369&t=module

One funny thing about some of those boxes though, is that they are shipped in fro Europe so they don't carry our red-button services. Instead they have the Teletext style interactivity built-in. That means that although you can get subtitles via 888 on the main 5 channels you can't get any other interactive services. You can, however, watch the interactive streams from BBC Red Button separately as individual channels on the box (and you get to see a nice BBC Red Button test card when the streams are not in use).
Last edited by james on 28 August 2011 10:37am
NG
noggin Founding member
Sorry - typo on my part - BBC World is NOT at 28.2 as far as I know. (Unless it is encrypted on one of the few non-UK/EIRE transponders - but I'm pretty sure it's not)
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james
Sorry - typo on my part - BBC World is NOT at 28.2 as far as I know. (Unless it is encrypted on one of the few non-UK/EIRE transponders - but I'm pretty sure it's not)


Correct. It is defiantly not on 28.2. Smile
:-(
A former member
http://www.lyngsat.com/ should tell you where it is.
GM
Gary McEwan
Yeah I'm in the process of getting a dish up for 19.2 and 13. So on that note, do I get the likes of RTL from Germany and SBS6 from the Netherlands?

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