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BBC World - Presenters not allowed to wear poppies

(November 2001)

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CO
cooldood37
BBC is paid for by the tax payers of Britain ,so therefore who cares if someone outside this country knows what they are,they are to remember the British war dead and as our soldiers might be fighting in Afghanistan in the near future or already are it is very poignant to do so.
PD
Pete Davis
I dont think BBC World people should wear poopies, as after all most people wont know what its for.
I however dont think guest should be obliged to remove theres.
MG
MikeG
cooldood37 posted:
BBC is paid for by the tax payers of Britain ,so therefore who cares if someone outside this country knows what they are,they are to remember the British war dead and as our soldiers might be fighting in Afghanistan in the near future or already are it is very poignant to do so.


Not just the British war dead. If you watch the ceremony on 11th from the cenetaph (spelling?), you will notice people from many commonwealth countries there too.
MM
MillyMaster
cooldood37 posted:
BBC is paid for by the tax payers of Britain ,so therefore who cares if someone outside this country knows what they are,they are to remember the British war dead and as our soldiers might be fighting in Afghanistan in the near future or already are it is very poignant to do so.


BBC World IS NOT funded by the tax payers, it is seperate and is funded by advertising.
RH
RtH Founding member
I think BBC World presenters should wear poppies. Also veterans groups and Tory MPs said that the presenters on BBC World should wear poppies.
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CA
cat
MillyMaster posted:
cooldood37 posted:
BBC is paid for by the tax payers of Britain ,so therefore who cares if someone outside this country knows what they are,they are to remember the British war dead and as our soldiers might be fighting in Afghanistan in the near future or already are it is very poignant to do so.


BBC World IS NOT funded by the tax payers, it is seperate and is funded by advertising.


I really don't subscribe to this argument that BBC World News is a totally seperate division to the rest of BBC News. How many times have you seen the same report on BBC World as the British BBC News? Rather a lot I think.

Indirectly BBC World IS funded by the licence fee. Do we not pay for correspondants that work on World as well as BBC News in the UK? Of course we do. And anyway, soon this argument will be complete rubbish. As I am sure most of you are aware - much to the annoyance of Sky, CNN and ITN - BBC World is soon to be latched on to the BBC World Service and recieve money directly from the Foreign Office.
MA
Marcus Founding member
Quote:
BBC World is soon to be latched on to the BBC World Service and recieve money directly from the Foreign Office.



BBC World should always have been funded by the Foreign Office. BBC World Service radio is this countrys biggest asset. Where ever you go in the world you can find people listening to BBC London and in many countries it's the only way of getting impartial news. With proper funding BBC World could have gained the same reputation in television.

(Edited by Marcus at 4:25 pm on Nov. 3, 2001)
CA
cat
Agreed. The BBC has always wanted to spawn mini-BBC World's, like they've done with the World Service, but the funding has never been there to allow them to do that. The World Service is an amazing operation and an unrivalled achievement in broadcasting. Voice of America is just that, the voice of America. Hardly independent. RFI (Radio France International) operate a good service and the Japanese NPK World is pretty good, but not even close to the World Service. The full scale of the World Service oddly hit me when I had a look in the Carribean section of the website and listened to one of the broadcasts there, makes you realise just how much news is glossed over.

BBC World could have been a bigger success - there's no doubt it has been a success - if funded by the F.O. There also would have been less of a need for BBC News 24, because WSTV could have been broadcast to the UK. Would've kept The Sun happy, anyway.
MM
MillyMaster
c@t posted:
MillyMaster posted:
cooldood37 posted:
BBC is paid for by the tax payers of Britain ,so therefore who cares if someone outside this country knows what they are,they are to remember the British war dead and as our soldiers might be fighting in Afghanistan in the near future or already are it is very poignant to do so.


BBC World IS NOT funded by the tax payers, it is seperate and is funded by advertising.


I really don't subscribe to this argument that BBC World News is a totally seperate division to the rest of BBC News. How many times have you seen the same report on BBC World as the British BBC News? Rather a lot I think.

Indirectly BBC World IS funded by the licence fee. Do we not pay for correspondants that work on World as well as BBC News in the UK? Of course we do. And anyway, soon this argument will be complete rubbish. As I am sure most of you are aware - much to the annoyance of Sky, CNN and ITN - BBC World is soon to be latched on to the BBC World Service and recieve money directly from the Foreign Office.


BBC World is seperate from BBC News, BBC Worldwide run BBC World (until sometime soon), who 'buy' news bulletins and current affairs programming from BBC News.

(Edited by MillyMaster at 4:32 pm on Nov. 3, 2001)
JA
Jamez
Asa posted:
Jamez posted:
As ever, the BBC are dancing around Tony Blairs feet!
Erm, what's that got to do with the discussion on poppies on BBC World?

Cheers, Asa


Well everyone knows the BBC is practically run by the Labour party!

Political correctness Mr Hicks - something that is one of the new evils in todays Britain!
M
M@ Founding member
My view:

They shouldn't be worn on World. Poppies are the BRITISH way of remembering the dead of ALL wars, not just those of WWI and WWII.

I reiterate, November 11th is not just for WWI and WWI. It's for ALL wars.
NS
NickyS Founding member
Just to put one thing straight ....
BBC World may be moving out of BBC Worldwide and into BBC World Service in management terms BUT the funding structure will remain the same ... it will NOT receive money from the Foreign Office ... it will remain a commerical venture not funded by the British public.
To quote the press release at the time 'The Foreign and Commonwealth Office, which funds the World Service through grant-in-aid, has been fully consulted about the proposition and is supportive of the development. BBC World is a commercial service funded by advertising and subscription. The separate identities of the two services and their different funding streams will be respected. '

BBC World pays BBC News for its news service so in fact Worldwide viewers are helping to fund BBC News programmes in the UK rather than the other way round.
CNN and the others will ofcourse try and portray the changes in a way that is advantagous to themselves as you would expect them to.

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