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you could apply that to any public sector strike
and lack of BBC TV doesn't effect the public that much, unlike for example a rail strike
I'd have thought more people watch the BBC in a day than use the rail network.
Andrew posted:
Hymagumba posted:
leftofmiddle posted:
When I read the line about 'wanting blank screens' I got really annoyed - you have a gripe about job cuts so you annoy the people that pay your wages - the licence fee.
you could apply that to any public sector strike
and lack of BBC TV doesn't effect the public that much, unlike for example a rail strike
I'd have thought more people watch the BBC in a day than use the rail network.
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you could apply that to any public sector strike
and lack of BBC TV doesn't effect the public that much, unlike for example a rail strike
I'd have thought more people watch the BBC in a day than use the rail network.
Well perhaps -- but does it 'affect' them that there's a limited BBC service on tonight in quite the same way ?
I realise the consequences for the BBC workers involved are serious, but a rail workers' strike would immediately impact on the national economy -- not to mention there being no alternative railways to use in the meantime.
Adam posted:
Andrew posted:
Hymagumba posted:
leftofmiddle posted:
When I read the line about 'wanting blank screens' I got really annoyed - you have a gripe about job cuts so you annoy the people that pay your wages - the licence fee.
you could apply that to any public sector strike
and lack of BBC TV doesn't effect the public that much, unlike for example a rail strike
I'd have thought more people watch the BBC in a day than use the rail network.
Well perhaps -- but does it 'affect' them that there's a limited BBC service on tonight in quite the same way ?
I realise the consequences for the BBC workers involved are serious, but a rail workers' strike would immediately impact on the national economy -- not to mention there being no alternative railways to use in the meantime.
IS
But many of them are. Besides having a number of multi-skillers on shift isn't necessarily going to help things - you couldn't run a news programme on a small number of multi-skilled operators or journalists
When I read the line about 'wanting blank screens' I got really annoyed - you have a gripe about job cuts so you annoy the people that pay your wages - the licence fee.
That's kind of the point. A day with disruption could prove to the viewers/listeners just how much they appreciate the service
leftofmiddle posted:
The BBC also have a large number of multi-skilled staff and not all of them are in a union - I'm sure it will be fine.
But many of them are. Besides having a number of multi-skillers on shift isn't necessarily going to help things - you couldn't run a news programme on a small number of multi-skilled operators or journalists
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When I read the line about 'wanting blank screens' I got really annoyed - you have a gripe about job cuts so you annoy the people that pay your wages - the licence fee.
That's kind of the point. A day with disruption could prove to the viewers/listeners just how much they appreciate the service
IS
Won't happen (sadly!). There are enough management types around to make sure something gets to air. A limited service is more likely.
Yes, I very much doubt that BBC1 or 2 would go totally off air - just making sure non-strikers are rota'd on to the playout positions on the day is enough. I can think of a few cases where the technology is too new for senior management to be able to roll up their sleeves and step into the breach,
The disruption would be to live programmes (i.e. news) and anything being made or delivered on that day. It all depends on who strikes, could be standbys all day or relatively normal
Baroness Trumpington posted:
cylon6 posted:
Just reading on Ceefax and it says that the unions are going to do all they can to make sure that there are 'black screens and dead air!'
Won't happen (sadly!). There are enough management types around to make sure something gets to air. A limited service is more likely.
Yes, I very much doubt that BBC1 or 2 would go totally off air - just making sure non-strikers are rota'd on to the playout positions on the day is enough. I can think of a few cases where the technology is too new for senior management to be able to roll up their sleeves and step into the breach,
The disruption would be to live programmes (i.e. news) and anything being made or delivered on that day. It all depends on who strikes, could be standbys all day or relatively normal
KA
Well, that's Look North off air during the strike then! I'll have to sling on an old episode to keep the routine up.....
Katherine
Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
The disruption would be to live programmes (i.e. news) and anything being made or delivered on that day. It all depends on who strikes, could be standbys all day or relatively normal
Well, that's Look North off air during the strike then! I'll have to sling on an old episode to keep the routine up.....
RW
Saturday 21st May could be a prime target, it being a big day for live programming with both the Eurovision Song Contest
and some football match - could a strike knock either or both out??
Robert Williams
Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
The disruption would be to live programmes (i.e. news) and anything being made or delivered on that day. It all depends on who strikes, could be standbys all day or relatively normal
Saturday 21st May could be a prime target, it being a big day for live programming with both the Eurovision Song Contest
and some football match - could a strike knock either or both out??
IS
Saturday 21st May could be a prime target, it being a big day for live programming with both the Eurovision Song Contest and some football match - could a strike knock either or both out??
Unless the Turkish unions are on strike I can't see it affecting Eurovision too much. Also the unions have to giove a certain amount of warning - the 21st is too soon.
Personally I doubt the first strike (if indeed there is more than 1) will be on a Saturday. Apparently the unions vary the days that strikes happen to spread them around and lessen the chance that lots of people will have to strike twice
Robert Williams posted:
Saturday 21st May could be a prime target, it being a big day for live programming with both the Eurovision Song Contest
and some football match - could a strike knock either or both out??
Unless the Turkish unions are on strike I can't see it affecting Eurovision too much. Also the unions have to giove a certain amount of warning - the 21st is too soon.
Personally I doubt the first strike (if indeed there is more than 1) will be on a Saturday. Apparently the unions vary the days that strikes happen to spread them around and lessen the chance that lots of people will have to strike twice
NW
Like the ITV strike of recent, I can't really see any on-screen difference on what effect a strike would have, as the BBC would have loads of normal programmes to play out. The last time they had a strike in 1998 the only thing that was affected was Breakfast News which was replaced by BBC News 24 and Call My Bluff.
LO
Saturday 21st May could be a prime target, it being a big day for live programming with both the Eurovision Song Contest and some football match - could a strike knock either or both out??
Unless the Turkish unions are on strike I can't see it affecting Eurovision too much. Also the unions have to giove a certain amount of warning - the 21st is too soon.
Personally I doubt the first strike (if indeed there is more than 1) will be on a Saturday. Apparently the unions vary the days that strikes happen to spread them around and lessen the chance that lots of people will have to strike twice
Actually the BBC play quite a large part in producing the Eurovision Song Contest. For example the BBC have designed and operated the graphics for the past few years.
The last BBC strike knocked out most of the news for the day.
Inspector Sands posted:
Robert Williams posted:
Saturday 21st May could be a prime target, it being a big day for live programming with both the Eurovision Song Contest
and some football match - could a strike knock either or both out??
Unless the Turkish unions are on strike I can't see it affecting Eurovision too much. Also the unions have to giove a certain amount of warning - the 21st is too soon.
Personally I doubt the first strike (if indeed there is more than 1) will be on a Saturday. Apparently the unions vary the days that strikes happen to spread them around and lessen the chance that lots of people will have to strike twice
Actually the BBC play quite a large part in producing the Eurovision Song Contest. For example the BBC have designed and operated the graphics for the past few years.
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Like the ITV strike of recent, I can't really see any on-screen difference on what effect a strike would have, as the BBC would have loads of normal programmes to play out. The last time they had a strike in 1998 the only thing that was affected was Breakfast News which was replaced by BBC News 24 and Call My Bluff.
The last BBC strike knocked out most of the news for the day.
AN
The difference though is that the ITV strike was just mainly some Granada production staff. This BBC strike is across lots of different departments
Andrew
Founding member
nwtv2003 posted:
Like the ITV strike of recent, I can't really see any on-screen difference on what effect a strike would have, as the BBC would have loads of normal programmes to play out. The last time they had a strike in 1998 the only thing that was affected was Breakfast News which was replaced by BBC News 24 and Call My Bluff.
The difference though is that the ITV strike was just mainly some Granada production staff. This BBC strike is across lots of different departments