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BBC uk channels on 13e and ITV

Part of new tv package Kabelio

HA
harshy Founding member
I was doing a blindscan and stumbled across bbc one, bbc two and itv on 13e when did these start? It looks like it’s been offered by a Swiss company along with German and french channels, I am guessing people have to subscribe to it and the bbc makes money from it, I think it’s the first time I’ve seen bbc uk channels on another main stream satellite. In other news BBC Arabic and Persian are in Full HD looks really good.
CO
commseng London London
Very recently, October from this.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020/10/13/kabelio-launches-swiss-dth-package-on-eutelsat-hotbird/

Channels listed on Lyngsat
https://www.lyngsat.com/packages/Kabelio.html
Last edited by commseng on 12 December 2020 9:36am
HA
harshy Founding member
What happens when there is sport does it get blacked out?
CO
commseng London London
I don't have any means of decrypting those services, so can't help.
Maybe they'd sell you a subscription?
NG
noggin Founding member
What happens when there is sport does it get blacked out?


I don't think so - I think this is covered by one of two things :

1. The BBC 'Cable agreement' that also allows cable operators in Benelux countries to rebroadcast BBC One and Two all the time (though this didn't cover ITV AIUI) - which would involve payment to the BBC.

2. The Swiss have an unusual 'rebroadcast' law I believe that allows any unencrypted broadcast receivable in Switzerland to be distributed within Switzerland - so if they can receive 28.2 on a decent sized dish, they can rebroadcast those signals. (I believe this is traditionally on cable - but I suspect there is no law that says it can't be encrypted satellite)

My guess is 2. (But it is a guess)

They may well be receiving the French stuff terrestrially off-air on the Swiss/French border, and ditto the Austrian stuff. (The German stuff is FTA on satellite)
RD
Roger Darthwell London London
What happens when there is sport does it get blacked out?


I don't think so - I think this is covered by one of two things :

1. The BBC 'Cable agreement' that also allows cable operators in Benelux countries to rebroadcast BBC One and Two all the time (though this didn't cover ITV AIUI) - which would involve payment to the BBC.

2. The Swiss have an unusual 'rebroadcast' law I believe that allows any unencrypted broadcast receivable in Switzerland to be distributed within Switzerland - so if they can receive 28.2 on a decent sized dish, they can rebroadcast those signals. (I believe this is traditionally on cable - but I suspect there is no law that says it can't be encrypted satellite)

My guess is 2. (But it is a guess)

They may well be receiving the French stuff terrestrially off-air on the Swiss/French border, and ditto the Austrian stuff. (The German stuff is FTA on satellite)

I know that 28.2 can be received in Basel....therefore this is how they have the BBC channels in Switzerland, I presume
Last edited by Roger Darthwell on 12 December 2020 12:52pm
TI
This Is Granada UTV
What region of BBC One/Two/ITV do they show? HD or SD?
Bring back the UTV! Bring back Julian & Gillian!
HA
harshy Founding member
Not sure it’s encrypted in Panaccess soundtrack is mpeg4 aac
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
What region of BBC One/Two/ITV do they show? HD or SD?
I'd assume London?
RD
Roger Darthwell London London
JAS84 posted:
What region of BBC One/Two/ITV do they show? HD or SD?
I'd assume London?

BBC1 HD so only red screen in place of regional news, while ITV shows the London news, because after all ITV London is the sustaining feed for the whole ITV network
MA
Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
JAS84 posted:
What region of BBC One/Two/ITV do they show? HD or SD?
I'd assume London?

BBC1 HD so only red screen in place of regional news, while ITV shows the London news, because after all ITV London is the sustaining feed for the whole ITV network


Strictly speaking ITV has never had a sustaining feed (back in the days of totally separate operation), there was the feed of networked (or part networked) programmes that was switched to each company, but there was nothing rebroadcastable in the gaps between them.

Today there's the national presented ITV feed that essentially goes directly to Tx. Local live or near live programmes arrive as remote sources into Chiswick and Leeds and are switched in and routed to the relevant transmitters there, along with local ads that are played from the Chiswick and Leeds servers.

ITV London is just the version that goes to Crystal P etc
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RD
Roger Darthwell London London
JAS84 posted:
d assume London?

BBC1 HD so only red screen in place of regional news, while ITV shows the London news, because after all ITV London is the sustaining feed for the whole ITV network


Strictly speaking ITV has never had a sustaining feed (back in the days of totally separate operation), there was the feed of networked (or part networked) programmes that was switched to each company, but there was nothing rebroadcastable in the gaps between them.

Today there's the national presented ITV feed that essentially goes directly to Tx. Local live or near live programmes arrive as remote sources into Chiswick and Leeds and are switched in and routed to the relevant transmitters there, along with local ads that are played from the Chiswick and Leeds servers.

ITV London is just the version that goes to Crystal P etc

Thank you for correcting me, I got confused, but ITV London is the one that today supplies the network feed isn't it? My apologies if I made a mistake again

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