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dvboy9,844 posts since 11 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today




http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2018/bbc-two-wales-hd?ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=corporate&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_press_office

There won't be one in Scotland because of the BBC Scotland channel but BBC Two NI HD can't be far behind.
Watch it and find out.
Markymark6,964 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today




http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2018/bbc-two-wales-hd?ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=corporate&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_press_office

There won't be one in Scotland because of the BBC Scotland channel but BBC Two NI HD can't be far behind.


No mention of BBC 2 Wales HD on satellite, so there goes 'platform neutrality' that the Beeb have clung to for almost 20 years.
Brekkie31,805 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
HTV Wales Wales Today
Hopefully then a sign of things to come with the regions too - the practicalities of putting them on Sky have effectively withheld them from Freeview viewers for years.
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Richard926 posts since 22 Apr 2012
Granada North West Today
Hopefully then a sign of things to come with the regions too - the practicalities of putting them on Sky have effectively withheld them from Freeview viewers for years.

Yes. I think platform neutrality could still apply because BBC 2 Wales is still on Sky and Freesat, it’s just that the Freeview version will be better quality. And, let’s be honest, satellite has always had the advantage due to all the regions being available everywhere.
Stuart7,247 posts since 13 Oct 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
I think the problem with the English Regions is that they aren't all ready, except for perhaps just London, Manchester & Plymouth, and maybe some of the later refurbs if they were more than just the gallery & studio.

However, platform neutrality aside, ISTR the BBC English Regions appearing on DSat back in the day on a very staggered approach - 'Red Button style' (I think I had 'BBC1 South' as an option to UK Today for a while) before 'BBC1 South West' appeared as part of the massive 'waterfall' of every single BBC region appearing on DSat.
Brekkie31,805 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
HTV Wales Wales Today
Actually some pros to have two different versions when Wales opt out.

To be honest though now they've lost the Pro 14 one of the main reasons for going HD has gone. Almost all primetime Wales programmes are on BBC1 with just the odd occasion where as a result a BBC1 show is bumped to BBC2.
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Richard926 posts since 22 Apr 2012
Granada North West Today
I think the problem with the English Regions is that they aren't all ready, except for perhaps just London, Manchester & Plymouth, and maybe some of the later refurbs if they were more than just the gallery & studio.

It doesn’t matter so much if the studio isn’t HD yet. Having everything in one place without having to change channel would be a bonus. Obviously infrastructure would need to be in place for this, but where are the HD muxes encoded? ISTR it’s done in London for all regions. If that’s the case would there be any need for new equipment in the region at all if the regional output remains SD?
Inspector Sands13,763 posts since 25 Aug 2004

It doesn’t matter so much if the studio isn’t HD yet. Having everything in one place without having to change channel would be a bonus. Obviously infrastructure would need to be in place for this, but where are the HD muxes encoded? ISTR it’s done in London for all regions. If that’s the case would there be any need for new equipment in the region at all if the regional output remains SD?

The HD channels are encoded at a couple of locations.

Yes to provide HD regions would require new encode chains for each of them (so 4 for each, 2 in each site I assume) plus reconfiguring the HD mux. I would assume that the MUX would need a change to its distribution too as there are more BBC regions than there are ITV HD regions
Markymark6,964 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Circuits in and out of the regional centres would need to be upgraded to carry HD, and you would probably need some form of upscaler.


Unless they adopt ITV’s approach and make the English regions remote sources into a centralised facility. Then no HD circuits into the region are required, and the SD regions could feed via SD circuits to the central point and be upscaled there. You lose the ability to soft opt from network and stick up captions and voice overs, but that can still be achieved up to a point with keyers etc
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