JR
It simply fades in... quite boring really. They could at least take a leaf out of BBC3's box, which appears in a variety of different ways.
BR
Those two are very disapointing - the Zoetrope one in particular is the worst BBC2 ident I've ever seen, while tent is something more suited to the last ITV1 batch!
The music doesn't catch your attention, while there is no imagination in the use of the box logo at all.
Having said that from the stills other idents do show more promise - the car mirror one in particular - but if those are the two chosen to highlight the switch I'm prepared for disapointment!
And for the first time I might agree with Mr Mediawatch - a piece of black paper and a pair of scissors would have achieved the same affect!
The music doesn't catch your attention, while there is no imagination in the use of the box logo at all.
Having said that from the stills other idents do show more promise - the car mirror one in particular - but if those are the two chosen to highlight the switch I'm prepared for disapointment!
And for the first time I might agree with Mr Mediawatch - a piece of black paper and a pair of scissors would have achieved the same affect!
JR
That's what the Daily Mail wants.
(Just so you know, it's the Capitus Lettrus ident using T W O. Boooring...)
Bail posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5j92058rao&mode=related&search=
That's what the Daily Mail wants.
(Just so you know, it's the Capitus Lettrus ident using T W O. Boooring...)
PC
Right...
Well, looking at these "2" it still doesn't give much away as to how the rest of the set could follow audio-wise; there may be no musical signature at all but we can't be sure until we compare them.
The logo is something of a blot on the landscape as the box at least doesn't really lend itself well to the idents, stuck in the corner - but I'm glad it's not constantly there, and instead fades in once the final shot of the '2' is decided upon, which I think works as well as could be done with it.
This Festival version of Tent is visually nothing too fancy; the close-ups of it being unzipped is a nice idea, although I think they could've improved it once the '2' is revealed by having the scene in time-lapse.
I understand that the soundtrack for that one is just an elec guitar piece that moves into crowd ambience and not much else, to reflect the outside picture, but being scene-specific, there might be favourable soundtracks in the other two versions - Perhaps the Beach version will have uptempo Caribbean music!
I find Zoetrope is a lot more whimsical than anything seen in a BBC 2 sequence for many years now, and yet it all comes together well. Looking forward to seeing and hearing it when broadcasted proper, as these files do seem quite lossy. I do detect something slightly late-90's special 2-esque about the sequence...If other soundtracks have that sort of feel, I might be quite content with the set as a whole, as if they get the mood of the music wrong on an ident it does spoil it. For example, I think the recent BBC 2 Xmas Ident ('05 / '06) was visually nice, but the music didn't do it justice.
One thing about the Zoetrope ident though, I sense a slight chance this could *possibly* end up getting complaints from the people who didn't like BBC 1's 'Tai Chi Rotation' dancer ident because it made them go dizzy!
I'm guessing that with retention of the box logo, BBC 2W will continue its 'green box logo that becomes part of the scene' idents, then. And as overnights go, since I've heard nothing of a change, I assume Lambie-Nairn's Learning Zone 'Acorn', born in 1997, will continue to live on and reach the milestone of a decade in service?
Well, looking at these "2" it still doesn't give much away as to how the rest of the set could follow audio-wise; there may be no musical signature at all but we can't be sure until we compare them.
The logo is something of a blot on the landscape as the box at least doesn't really lend itself well to the idents, stuck in the corner - but I'm glad it's not constantly there, and instead fades in once the final shot of the '2' is decided upon, which I think works as well as could be done with it.
This Festival version of Tent is visually nothing too fancy; the close-ups of it being unzipped is a nice idea, although I think they could've improved it once the '2' is revealed by having the scene in time-lapse.
I understand that the soundtrack for that one is just an elec guitar piece that moves into crowd ambience and not much else, to reflect the outside picture, but being scene-specific, there might be favourable soundtracks in the other two versions - Perhaps the Beach version will have uptempo Caribbean music!
I find Zoetrope is a lot more whimsical than anything seen in a BBC 2 sequence for many years now, and yet it all comes together well. Looking forward to seeing and hearing it when broadcasted proper, as these files do seem quite lossy. I do detect something slightly late-90's special 2-esque about the sequence...If other soundtracks have that sort of feel, I might be quite content with the set as a whole, as if they get the mood of the music wrong on an ident it does spoil it. For example, I think the recent BBC 2 Xmas Ident ('05 / '06) was visually nice, but the music didn't do it justice.
One thing about the Zoetrope ident though, I sense a slight chance this could *possibly* end up getting complaints from the people who didn't like BBC 1's 'Tai Chi Rotation' dancer ident because it made them go dizzy!
I'm guessing that with retention of the box logo, BBC 2W will continue its 'green box logo that becomes part of the scene' idents, then. And as overnights go, since I've heard nothing of a change, I assume Lambie-Nairn's Learning Zone 'Acorn', born in 1997, will continue to live on and reach the milestone of a decade in service?
GL
Two good things: firstly, the box fades up from nothing, just like the old style centred logo, which I really like, otherwise you tend to think it's a trailer. Secondly, I like the way the camera stops at the end with the 2 in the centre. They do seem very nice, especially the Zoetrope one. If they had put the old logo on it, it would look like something out of the 1991-2001 era! Very good all the same.
AQ
Very different to the current ones.
I hate the box. I loathe the box. It must die.
The music - not fussed either way really. I will wait to see more.
The visuals. Interesting. I like both really on first view. As has been said, a very different feel, but I am OK with that.
As for the template to make you own ident - bring it on. Maybe they will make the best ones and put them on. A nice idea that.
I hate the box. I loathe the box. It must die.
The music - not fussed either way really. I will wait to see more.
The visuals. Interesting. I like both really on first view. As has been said, a very different feel, but I am OK with that.
As for the template to make you own ident - bring it on. Maybe they will make the best ones and put them on. A nice idea that.
SP
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. It's just a bit confused - what is BBC Two's logo? Is it the '2', or is it the boxed logo?
Barney Boo posted:
Intrigued by what I've seen so far, and borderline impressed. I think if BBC Two wanted their pres to be truly distinctive though, they'd ditch any branding during the idents other than the 2 as a device.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. It's just a bit confused - what is BBC Two's logo? Is it the '2', or is it the boxed logo?
MA
I'm sorry if I'm in a minority right now, but I seriously dislike them. To me, they're more of the thing that would be on Channel 5 or similar - they're just too dull plus the new font and music don't help. I always have liked the current set and will miss them, like I miss the 90's ones. They'll never be able to build upon 90's perfection.
JO
I've now seen the videos, and I must say I'm quite impressed with
Zoetrope
. I like the way it starts off with the view of the city and becomes more flickery as the 'camera' moves out; it gives a bit of mystery as the viewer wonders what it is. I suppose it could involve other views in place of the city.
I'm not so impressed with Tent . I don't like idents with mulitple clips (ie shots) as opposed to one continuous movement; somehow it feels weaker as a piece of video. The tent is opened I feel far too slowly; it feels a bit strange.
As regards audio, I feel it could've been done better. It feels very airy at the moment, and could be imporved with bass.
But on the whole, I'm impressed.
I'm not so impressed with Tent . I don't like idents with mulitple clips (ie shots) as opposed to one continuous movement; somehow it feels weaker as a piece of video. The tent is opened I feel far too slowly; it feels a bit strange.
As regards audio, I feel it could've been done better. It feels very airy at the moment, and could be imporved with bass.
But on the whole, I'm impressed.