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BBC Two: new idents from Sunday 18 February

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JO
Jonny
Looks like the Daily Mail really did reuse their previous BBC1 ident rant as they ended up with this muddle of nonsense:

Quote:
A BBC2 spokesman said: "Three of the scenes were filmed in £1.2million on 80 seconds of footage featuring synchronised swimming hippos, surfers, kite-flyers and children playing in a meadow.

The clips replaced previous segues introduced in 2002 costing £700,000 and featuring dancers in wheelchairs, Bollywood performers and tangoing couples.


Full Article (Go on, its worth a chuckle)
RW
Robert Williams Founding member
plucky duck92 posted:
I noticed this as well but as has been said, there was a bit of variation in the 91-01 idents.
Three examples are:

Water
http://www.tvradiobits.co.uk/idents/BBC2as.jpg

Optic
http://www.tvradiobits.co.uk/idents/BBC2av.jpg

Gorilla
http://www.tvradiobits.co.uk/idents/BBC2ac.jpg


The first two are explainable - in the first, the shape of the 2 is distorted by the water, in the second, if you watch further into the ident, the fibre optic cables gradually settle down into the standard 2 shape. The third looks exactly like the usual 2 shape anyway - as do all the rest of the old ones to me!
JO
Joe
I'll post the comment that I left on the DM article...

I posted:
As usual, things have been blown out of proportion. BBC 2 spends a similar amount of money every day just running the channel. It's not a 15 second link, its millions of 15 second links. By refreshing their image, they're bringing in lots of new viewers. Its been seen in the past what a new brand image can do for a channel, without changing the programmes. And at the end of the day, you don't want to still be stuck with the yellow '2's many years later, do you?


I doubt it'll be published though.
JR
jrothwell97
Robert Williams posted:
The first two are explainable - in the first, the shape of the 2 is distorted by the water, in the second, if you watch further into the ident, the fibre optic cables gradually settle down into the standard 2 shape. The third looks exactly like the usual 2 shape anyway - as do all the rest of the old ones to me!


Optics does settle down into roughly the right shape, but it is a bit fatter than usual at the end which is understandable. Or are my eyes going funny?

The bottom line is that the 2 is the same as it has been since 1991 and will be for the forseeable future.

As I look at it more, the box is starting to look nicer now that nasty purple has gone.

I wonder how people will be asked to make these "citizen" idents that the press release has told us about?

The mystery now is how the robotic 2s will be played out... will there be a montage, or something special like pluckyduck92 suggested a few weeks back as in a special variant of Domino?
RO
roo
plucky duck92 posted:
Looks like the Daily Mail really did reuse their previous BBC1 ident rant as they ended up with this muddle of nonsense:

Quote:
A BBC2 spokesman said: "Three of the scenes were filmed in £1.2million on 80 seconds of footage featuring synchronised swimming hippos, surfers, kite-flyers and children playing in a meadow.

The clips replaced previous segues introduced in 2002 costing £700,000 and featuring dancers in wheelchairs, Bollywood performers and tangoing couples.


Full Article (Go on, its worth a chuckle)

I do love the completely irrelevant footnote:
Quote:
A BBC advertisement promoting digital television prompted a flood of complaints in 2005.
The advert featured a giant computer-animated head made up of hundreds of bouncing faces without bodies.
ST
Stuart
jrothwell97 posted:
The mystery now is how the robotic 2s will be played out... pluckyduck92 suggested a few weeks back a.....special variant of Domino?

I think that might be rather expensive to produce, I hope we get a montage though of sorts!
JO
Johnny83
Regarding the shape, to be honest I never even noticed until someone pointed it out & I usually notice tiny little differences like that

The way some people are going on about the ever so slightly different 2 you would think they have completely changed it.
JR
jrothwell97
Jugalug on the Daily Mail's hypocritical load of rubbish they call an 'article' posted:
As usual, things have been blown out of proportion. BBC 2 spends a similar amount of money every day just running the channel. It's not a 15 second link, its millions of 15 second links. By refreshing their image, they're bringing in lots of new viewers. Its been seen in the past what a new brand image can do for a channel, without changing the programmes. And at the end of the day, you don't want to still be stuck with the yellow '2's many years later, do you?


You've really hit the nail on the head there. And one commenter saying the BBC are a load of "chump[s] who fancies a free holiday abroad on the license fee".

Filming an ident is not simply drawing a big numeral on a piece of card, sticking a camera in front of it and adding a few effects in Photoshop. I'm sure the filming team worked quite hard to get the idents looking right. Would the Daily Mail rather we had this introducing programmes?

http://jrothwell97.googlepages.com/rubbish.PNG

In a nutshell, the BBC is trying its best to present its services nicely and give people a nice surprise on Sunday. I think most people will actually notice, because the new set is so different to the last.

And as for the woman who thinks they flew to South Africa to film a cup of coffee... chances are Cappuccino was filmed in a studio somewhere in Britain.
JR
jrothwell97
StuartPlymouth posted:
I think that might be rather expensive to produce, I hope we get a montage though of sorts!


It wouldn't be that expensive, as it is CGI after all? Or would the rendering computer have to be based in South Africa? Or maybe somewhere further out like Mars. Laughing
AG
AxG
We want idents that we dont get bored of for the first 10 showings, and if that means spending loads of money of them then i dont care.
ST
Stuart
jrothwell97 posted:
StuartPlymouth posted:
I think that might be rather expensive to produce, I hope we get a montage though of sorts!


It wouldn't be that expensive, as it is CGI after all? Or would the rendering computer have to be based in South Africa? Or maybe somewhere further out like Mars. Laughing

Well you don't know where it would be done, I hear the aliens on Europa are operating most of the ASTRA/SES satellites and also provide most of our "human oriented idents" these days since they took over BUSY BEE.

They charge a fortune in Iridium though, but it may be worth it for "one last robotic". Laughing Laughing Laughing
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
I think the new 2 idents look quite stunning - I don't mind the box staying either. Roll on Sunday! Despite the current set of 2 idents not being the most spectacular, it will still be sad to see them go!

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