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No sound on Lambing Live (April 2011)

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BE
benriggers
It appears all the technical problems (& Coast) have all been removed from the Iplayer version as it's only 42 minutes long (When you play it. When you click on the link it says 1 Hour)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0107t67/Lambing_Live_Series_2_Episode_2/
JA
james
Ant posted:
Anyone know how BBC HD coped with the problems?


I think they just popped the usual BBC HD breakdown slide up.
SP
spud_nic
It may just be my memory, but I seem to recall the last few breakdowns that have happened recently on the BBC, and mentioned here, haven't really been handled that well by the CA - from taking too long to say something, apologizing too frequently etc
ST
stevek2
It appears all the technical problems (& Coast) have all been removed from the Iplayer version as it's only 42 minutes long (When you play it. When you click on the link it says 1 Hour)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0107t67/Lambing_Live_Series_2_Episode_2/


they have removed the first break and the last one (where they tried to show coast) but not the second one, which comes in around 6:30 Confused
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
What's the betting on how many breakdowns we have tonight then?? Very Happy
ST
Ste Founding member
Anyone know whether this OB is being done via satellite or terrestrial links? When it falls of air it looks more like an analogue link than a digital one.

Ah the irony! The filler programme has had sound problems!


I don't know about last night but tonight there is a satellite feed for it:

Frequency: 11455 - Pol: H - SR: 6600 - FEC Auto
on 2E and in 4:2:2
DI
digipal
james posted:
Ant posted:
Anyone know how BBC HD coped with the problems?


I think they just popped the usual BBC HD breakdown slide up.


They had a BBC HD loop with a background of grass, looping and looping (looked a bit like a daybreak vt actually)
WA
watchingtv
james posted:
Ant posted:
Anyone know how BBC HD coped with the problems?


I think they just popped the usual BBC HD breakdown slide up.


They had a BBC HD loop with a background of grass, looping and looping (looked a bit like a daybreak vt actually)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1e1hk5xF9Q&hd=1 BBC HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hys9f1uqww ITV DAYBREAK
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digipal
james posted:
Ant posted:
Anyone know how BBC HD coped with the problems?


I think they just popped the usual BBC HD breakdown slide up.


They had a BBC HD loop with a background of grass, looping and looping (looked a bit like a daybreak vt actually)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1e1hk5xF9Q&hd=1 BBC HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hys9f1uqww ITV DAYBREAK


That wasn't the BBC HD loop they transmitted (it was a grass background that just swayed slowly) almost like the daybreak one you've shown
DO
dosxuk
When the programme fell off air it just cut to black rather than the usual pixellating or freezing that is common with digital. Last night there was frequent glitching in the bottom third of the picture.


When an analogue link transmitter goes down you'll get white noise / snow on both the video and audio (which normally results in whatever the synchroniser is set up to output when it loses incoming sync (normally the last complete video frame received and silence) being broadcast). With digital it'll be whatever the receiver head is setup to output on loss of signal, normally a black or blue screen (the synchroniser won't get involved (if there is one), as the receive head is always generating a valid video signal).

If an analogue or digital receiver goes down, you'll get a blank signal - black and silence. That said, it's pretty unusual for the receive side to go down, they're normally a lot more robustly mounted, and with more reliable mains supplies than transmitters.

Also, digilinks are a lot more robust than their analogue equivalents. If you can see picture disturbances on digital, there's a good chance an analogue link in the same situation would already be unusable. I remember experimenting with some of the first digilinks available to see how far we could go compared to the analogue kit we normally used. The ability to go indoors was (at the time) revolutionary too!
PC
Paul Clark
Nice that it went without a hitch tonight, but from a pres point of view, a bit of a shame we didn't get to see another breakdown and how it would be handled! Razz
JA
james
Nice that it went without a hitch tonight, but from a pres point of view, a bit of a shame we didn't get to see another breakdown and how it would be handled! Razz


I bet pres were waiting in-case the programme went down again tonight .

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