PL
You could hear the stress in the CA's voice when the filler programme failed..... classic 
NG
Hmm - Glasgow or Manchester? It's an HD show - I doubt anywhere (apart possible from Leeds) will have HD playout facilities and an HD circuit (or an SD circuit with a Dirac Pro Encoder that allows an uncompressed SD circuit to carry HD compressed)
noggin
Founding member
I bet they're starting to regret calling it "Lambing Live" - they could pre-record it earlier in the day and bike the tape to the nearest BBC centre for playout instead of trying to do it live and keep falling off air if they hadn't put "live" in the name.
Hmm - Glasgow or Manchester? It's an HD show - I doubt anywhere (apart possible from Leeds) will have HD playout facilities and an HD circuit (or an SD circuit with a Dirac Pro Encoder that allows an uncompressed SD circuit to carry HD compressed)
NG
Didn't see the on-air breakdowns just the apology captions.
It will be a digital link as it is an HD show - there aren't any analogue HD links.
As it is an Arena OB I'd expect it to be satellite. Though the problem might not be the uplink, it could be elsewhere and further up the production chain than that. Very difficult to know what the set-up is without knowing more about the facilities being used. (Fibre vs Triax cameras, how much leeway in the link budget for the uplink, power contingencies, whether there was a lower quality but much more resilient standby circuit on a different transponder etc.)
noggin
Founding member
Anyone know whether this OB is being done via satellite or terrestrial links? When it falls of air it looks more like an analogue link than a digital one.
Ah the irony! The filler programme has had sound problems!
Ah the irony! The filler programme has had sound problems!
Didn't see the on-air breakdowns just the apology captions.
It will be a digital link as it is an HD show - there aren't any analogue HD links.
As it is an Arena OB I'd expect it to be satellite. Though the problem might not be the uplink, it could be elsewhere and further up the production chain than that. Very difficult to know what the set-up is without knowing more about the facilities being used. (Fibre vs Triax cameras, how much leeway in the link budget for the uplink, power contingencies, whether there was a lower quality but much more resilient standby circuit on a different transponder etc.)
SP
I hadn't realised it was HD, which does complicate matters. They were blaming the weather for the problems, which I interpreted as an uplink issue (rain fade or the wind blowing the dish out of alignment) but I guess power issues are a distinct possibility. Thinking about it an uplink problem wouldn't cause sound failures.
When the programme fell off air it just cut to black rather than the usual pixellating or freezing that is common with digital. Last night there was frequent glitching in the bottom third of the picture.
When the programme fell off air it just cut to black rather than the usual pixellating or freezing that is common with digital. Last night there was frequent glitching in the bottom third of the picture.
WA
Mondays Episode: http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b0107t25/
Just quickly jumping through I didn't see any captions, but I could of easily missed them, Over the end credits an apology has been left on.
Just quickly jumping through I didn't see any captions, but I could of easily missed them, Over the end credits an apology has been left on.
NG
It only takes dodgy power at a radio mic receiver point to take out all of your sound (in one location at least) on a show like that. Water and OB power on those kind of set-ups are often not good bed-fellows.
The glitching sounds more like a link issue - but then who knows. Very heavy rain can often find leaks in even the nicest looking OB trucks. (Often the nice looking ones aren't as rugged as you might think - better to pay for coachwork than artwork...)
noggin
Founding member
I hadn't realised it was HD, which does complicate matters. They were blaming the weather for the problems, which I interpreted as an uplink issue (rain fade or the wind blowing the dish out of alignment) but I guess power issues are a distinct possibility. Thinking about it an uplink problem wouldn't cause sound failures.
When the programme fell off air it just cut to black rather than the usual pixellating or freezing that is common with digital. Last night there was frequent glitching in the bottom third of the picture.
When the programme fell off air it just cut to black rather than the usual pixellating or freezing that is common with digital. Last night there was frequent glitching in the bottom third of the picture.
It only takes dodgy power at a radio mic receiver point to take out all of your sound (in one location at least) on a show like that. Water and OB power on those kind of set-ups are often not good bed-fellows.
The glitching sounds more like a link issue - but then who knows. Very heavy rain can often find leaks in even the nicest looking OB trucks. (Often the nice looking ones aren't as rugged as you might think - better to pay for coachwork than artwork...)
DA
There is break up and a caption at around the hour mark.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b0107t25/?t=0h59m30s
Kate Humble says that it is a satellite link but she may not be an authority on broadcast technology.
Mondays Episode: http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b0107t25/
Just quickly jumping through I didn't see any captions, but I could of easily missed them, Over the end credits an apology has been left on.
Just quickly jumping through I didn't see any captions, but I could of easily missed them, Over the end credits an apology has been left on.
There is break up and a caption at around the hour mark.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b0107t25/?t=0h59m30s
Kate Humble says that it is a satellite link but she may not be an authority on broadcast technology.
IS
The director would, there's no-one else working specifically on the channel apart from the announcer.
Was it necessary for the announcer to waffle on so much? It seemed like he popped up every 30 seconds when there was nothing new to say. And the constant need to say 'BBC2' all the time, very annoying
The breakdown on the standby was odd, presumably it would have been on server so either that port decided on that moment to go wrong or it was cached wrongly and no-one had checked it
Who would make the decision on which apology caption to use?
The director would, there's no-one else working specifically on the channel apart from the announcer.
Was it necessary for the announcer to waffle on so much? It seemed like he popped up every 30 seconds when there was nothing new to say. And the constant need to say 'BBC2' all the time, very annoying
The breakdown on the standby was odd, presumably it would have been on server so either that port decided on that moment to go wrong or it was cached wrongly and no-one had checked it