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(August 2003)

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BB
BBC Scotland
Hi Folks,

I saw a new ident on BBC Two (BBC Scotland) this morning. It provided continuity into Ainsley's Big Cook Out. It featured some loud music and the '2' setting fire to the BBC Two box logo.

Can anyone tell me what this is called and when it was first broadcast please? It seems more similar to an old BBC Two ident rather than the new cast.

Also is the Fish ident still used? I have not seen it for a long time now.

Many thanks in advance for any help.
Last edited by BBC Scotland on 9 August 2003 10:34am
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benjy
It's not that new (first shown on the 30th of June in NI, and on network the following evening), but it hasn't been used that much since.

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BB
BBC Scotland
Thanks Benjy,

Do you know why it was shown on BBC Northern Ireland before Network? Was it a special evening of programming or was just decided to use it there first?

Thank you again for your help.
BE
benjy
We were never quite sure - it may have slipped through early or they just decided to show it then. But I seem to remember they were both shown before Fawlty Towers, maybe there was a mix-up there.
JE
Jenny Founding member
The corresponding "Now Next Later" trailer/menu background has been used quite a bit, probably more than the ident itself.
ST
Still
I have to admit I always have to look twice when scanning the epg and finding "Ainsley's Big Cook out" ... Then I'm easily fooled/startled. Wink
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Westy2
Can someone explain why BBC 2 'closes down' for an hour, with Ceefax, then starts up with the Learning Zone?

Why not run Learning Zone straight after normal programing, like I've seen them do, during the week, after progs like 'WhistleTest Years' ?
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russnet Founding member
When BBC2 closed down Friday night, they used the Fire ident but had the Subtitles caption up. Why would they have that up when they were going into Ceefax.

Was it for the benefit of Mr Luxton so he knows what the words to the music are!... or maybe he already knows! Smile
AS
Asa Admin
Westy2 posted:
Can someone explain why BBC 2 'closes down' for an hour, with Ceefax, then starts up with the Learning Zone?

Why not run Learning Zone straight after normal programing, like I've seen them do, during the week, after progs like 'WhistleTest Years' ?

Although BBC Two is no where near as bad as ITV1, their timing at a weekend is more likely to change than in the week and at least with overrunning, Ceefax can be reduced easily. Also, programmes at the weekend generally don't finish on the hour when The Learning Zone is best to kick off (after all, it may as well be made as easy as possible for those taping it overnight).

There's no reason why they should run it straight after, so they don't. The only thing I'm slightly surprised about is the continuation of Ceefax. I guess it's tradition than a static "coming up tomorrow" slide or whatever.

Nice to hear there's been goodnight closedowns so far this weekend - when was the last time anyone on BBC One bothered (or got away with it?!)
BB
BBC Scotland
russnet posted:
When BBC2 closed down Friday night, they used the Fire ident but had the Subtitles caption up. Why would they have that up when they were going into Ceefax.

Was it for the benefit of Mr Luxton so he knows what the words to the music are!... or maybe he already knows! Smile


Another presentation error! They often do this on BBC One - the Network Director often leaves the Subtitles flag on by mistake when BBC One joins BBC News 24 - it is currently never subtitled overnight (except for the first night of the Iraq War).

Sometimes they forget to add it as well! Usually on the ident before Breakfast at 0559. It may be a small point but it is of huge use to the deaf viewers who rely on Subtitling.
DA
DAS Founding member
BBC Scotland posted:
It may be a small point but it is of huge use to the deaf viewers who rely on Subtitling.


I wouldn't overexaggerate the importance of the Subtitles caption. Deaf viewers may rely on the subtitles themselves, but they don't rely on the preceeding caption - hence Channel 4 dropping the caption altogether.
TV
TVDragon
Asa posted:
Nice to hear there's been goodnight closedowns so far this weekend - when was the last time anyone on BBC One bothered (or got away with it?!)


*predictable post alert*

They say goodnight most nights on BBC ONE Wales, and in foreign.
Wasn't that long ago they used to quite regularly say their name also [after appallingly reading the late headlines].

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