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chris
My issue was that the ident at first glance looks like a statement the BBC are making on their own future, as there is no real separation between the normal ident/announcement and the '2' explosion going into TV static, which I thought it was a bit ethically unsound.

I fully agree with those who say the BBC is in a dangerous position and needs to be saved from a government on track to virtually destroy it. I just felt this was uncharacteristic of the BBC. It sort of reminds me of those ITV sponsorships from the 90s like on This Morning where there was no real separation between the sponsor and the titles.

Looks like I'm the only one who thinks this though so I'll happily defer. I know there are more pressing issues!


No I completely agree with you. The BBC, quite rightly, is against too much interference by the Government to maintain its impartiality. Therefore it should equally maintain its impartiality in its coverage of today's royal charter. Changing the ident to suggest destruction blurred that impartiality line.
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Steve in Pudsey
They wiped from the real ident to a mock that was blown up, presumably for that reason.

And it's not like there isn't an ident where the 2 gets blown up by fireworks.
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D.Page
...And it's not like there isn't an ident where the 2 gets blown up by fireworks.


It seems they can't bear/allow Firecracker to be played out even just the once only, due to their opinions that quality is such that it won't look good enough when viewed in HD Rolling Eyes If these idents are to be used for the foreseeable future, surely it would be a fair use of licence fee payers' money to get at least some more of them rescanned from the 35mm negs.
Last edited by D.Page on 13 May 2016 9:08am - 2 times in total
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Jonny
Yes, Firecracker would have been perfect and arguably more suitably subtle in its underlying message for that junction really. Missed opportunity.
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VMPhil
They wiped from the real ident to a mock that was blown up, presumably for that reason.

It's not a wipe is it though, it's a proper ripping animation and everything, and the soundtrack continues underneath, with the BBC Two logo staying on screen in the same place.


If you look at the box you can also tell they've added a vignette filter to the whole thing.
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Justin
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I noticed this image during a piece on one of Charlie Brooker's Wipe shows. Weren't those coloured blocks only used for closedown radio slides? and also, what's with the 'BBC 2' logo, Didn't LN standardize the type only logo?
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ToasterMan
Remember that period from 2005-06 when BBC Two continued to show Pages from Ceefax until 7am in the morning? I remember when I was 5 years old, expecting the children's programmes to come on, when they suddenly announced; "CBBC will begin after some pages & music from Ceefax", they eventually got rid of this a few months before the Window On the World look.

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Rofters
Remember that period from 2005-06 when BBC Two continued to show Pages from Ceefax until 7am in the morning? I remember when I was 5 years old, expecting the children's programmes to come on, when they suddenly announced; "CBBC will begin after some pages & music from Ceefax", they eventually got rid of this a few months before the Window On the World look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukZVDeVlJs


Oh god!
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D.Page
NI played Duck Sub stings edit 'A' [5"] and edit 'B' [3"] (AKA 'Duck Surface' and 'Duck Periscope', respectively) concurrently in the same junction, before the Swimming at 6:30, so the Duck 2 was seen to ascend from below the water surface, followed by some manoeuvring, before descending below the water surface once again. Apart from the obvious slight fade down/up of the soundtrack at the point where the two were joined (when, for reasons unknown, the two stings were split, that's how they edited the soundtrack), it went out pretty much the same as the full length 8" sting. Never happened before, in recent times AFAIK.
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ToasterMan
I was just reading an article entitled "I'll miss our little 2 friend" that was written when the Window on the World look was first introduced in Feb 2007, & he did bring up some interesting points, like how he preferred the early 90's 2s over the more comedic ones that were introduced later on & how the WOTW look took a lot from Channel 4, I personally feel like giving the 2 a personality was always a quirk that was established & allowed for more interesting circumstances it was put in.

Many of the early 90's 2's never really showed the 2 having a personality, that was introduced around 1993 with the trails & stings & eventually the classic Car & Dog idents, I remember reading a thread during the Personality 2s era that pretty much wanted the 2 to be stripped of its character, yet when the WOTW idents were introduced, people didn't like them, I still can't get my heard around the dislike against them, as the early 90's 2s never showed the with 2 with a personality & neither did the WOTW ones; I don't get it. Confused

Also, talking of the Personality idents, which set between those & the Window on the World idents would you say to be the best & the worst?
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Michael
Best: Firestarter
Worst: Mackerel
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D.Page
I don't know who the researcher is, in today's The TV That Made Me, but Crown Court was a Granada TV series, not BBC One Shocked

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