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BBC Three - Trust's final decision published

Split from BBC Three (November 2015)

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JA
JAS84
JAS84 posted:
BBC One's feeble attempts at youth skewed programming such as Waterloo Road and more recently Cuffs shows that if you attempt to skew young and still try and accommodate an older audience doesn't quite work.
Bad example, considering how long WR ran for. Clearly it DID work.


If you seriously think the Scottish era of the drama worked, then you're deluded.
That was kind of a Jump the Shark moment (schools don't move to a different country, especially not with the same pupils!), true - but that was more than half way through it's run. I wasn't specifically referring to the Scottish episodes though, I was referring to the entire run. It lasted 10 years. If it didn't work, it wouldn't have lasted three.
BR
Brekkie
If you look at the formats poached by BBC One and Two, they have been tweaked to make them more accessible to an older audience. Don't Tell the Bride bombed on BBC One after it moved. It was too much of a 'Three' show to transfer over


I don't think Don't Tell The Bride is a good example to suggest when arguing BBC Three's case. It's a perfect example of the sort of programming that be at home on ITV2, E4 or Channel 5. The worthy shows are so far and few between, they can be accommodated by BBC One and Two quite comfortably.

It's a perfect example as it showed how well BBC3 serves it's audience and how poorly BBC1 serves the "BBC3 audience".
RD
RDJ

It's a perfect example as it showed how well BBC3 serves it's audience and how poorly BBC1 serves the "BBC3 audience".


Reverting all content to BBC1 and even BBC2 to a lesser extent is going to take the edge of the BBC3 shows.

A good example is when they 'promoted' Little Britain to BBC1 much to David Walliams and Matt Lucas's distaste who had to town down some of the language and stunts that they done in the previous two series, therefore the series came to a halt after that.
SW
Steve Williams
RDJ posted:
A good example is when they 'promoted' Little Britain to BBC1 much to David Walliams and Matt Lucas's distaste who had to town down some of the language and stunts that they done in the previous two series, therefore the series came to a halt after that.


Little Britain did very well on BBC1, and it presumably only ended after that because they'd done three series and were bored with it and too famous (and indeed the third series was probably the one that most relied on vulgarity). After that series they did Little Britain Abroad (one episode of which was on Christmas Day) and Little Britain USA, plus Come Fly With Me which was very much the same, and also on BBC1, and also on Christmas Day. The move worked absolutely brilliantly for them. Gavin and Stacey was another one, that ended up on Christmas Day as well.
BR
Brekkie
Sometimes though it's all about perception, whether they're right or not. Although both those series aired on all three channels I do think viewers have different expectations of a series launching on BBC1, BBC2 and BBC3.

Has it been said how series will be released online - will it still be weekly, or will they move to releasing all episodes of a scripted series together?
JF
JetixFann450
What I think the BBC needs to do is have some sort of BBC 1/2 catch up on the BBC Three IPlayer page. It basically means that if an youth misses their programmes, they can watch BBC Three to catch up on the programmes that just were on BBC 1/2
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
What I think the BBC needs to do is have some sort of BBC 1/2 catch up on the BBC Three IPlayer page. It basically means that if an youth misses their programmes, they can watch BBC Three to catch up on the programmes that just were on BBC 1/2


But isn't that what iPlayer is for, to catch up on what you've missed?
You appear to be suggesting a catch-up service to watch programmes that are already on catch-up. Or am I misunderstanding?
London Lite and Brekkie gave kudos
IN
Interceptor
I'm not sure I buy this inference that Little Britain and Gavin & Stacey wouldn't have been commissioned without BBC3.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I'm not sure I buy this inference that Little Britain and Gavin & Stacey wouldn't have been commissioned without BBC3.


Little Britain and Gavin and Stacey were destined to move across as they were mainstream in nature, but Three did give them an opportunity to be commissioned earlier than if they pitched to One or Two.

However, I doubt People Just Do Nothing would have been commissioned by BBC Two. It's too yoof and urban for middle England's palette.
LL
Larry the Loafer
BBC Three was a great launchpad for new talent who, eventually and evidently, moved into the mainstream via BBC One and BBC Two. It could be argued that the online-based BBC Three will still support this launchpad, but anybody can make something and put it on the internet. Television is still a prestigious platform to be on, in my opinion - when it comes to something of any worth, not reality BS.
TR
TROGGLES
Poor money driven decision to axe BBC3 but I suspect that the trust cold argue that the BBC are spending millions on programming who's demographic doesn't pay the licence fee and watches on-line. Not my argument but I've heard it used as an excuse many times.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
There is certainly an argument that BBC2 lost its distinctiveness when BBC3 launched. This may not be too bad in the scheme of things.

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