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JC
JCB
BBC ONE - the very best of UK television between 5pm and 1am (simulcasting the News Channel for other hours)

Reasoning: does the BBC really need to compete with daytime ITV? Do we really need another series of Homes Under The Hammer


When did ITV, or Channels 4 &5 last commission daytime drama?
LN
LondonNewsBites
TCOTV posted:
As we are all living in fantasy land here my take;

BBC Three 24 hours (using the full current CBBC stream) with CBBC Breakfast show every morning 7-10am (maybe longer at weekend and holidays). And every afternoon 3-8pm. The rest over to BBC Three with repeats in the day and Radio 1 content used to bulk schedule. This will make a strong youth service and give CBBC an EPG boosted.

Merge BBC Four into BBC Two to make a bigger and stronger BBC Four type channel. Move any content not fitting in with the new channel to BBC One and maybe BBC Three to boost that channel.

BBC Scotland start at 7pm time shifting with CBeebies. The rest of the UK could have BBC England, BBC Wales and BBC Northen Island which will then make BBC One a national channel with regional news or if they can make it a BBC One +1. Maybe S4C can broadcast from 7pm in wales and save some money. Who knows.


''BBC Three 24 hours (using the full current CBBC stream) with CBBC Breakfast show every morning 7-10am''
You mean every weekday? CBBC's audience drops by 9am and gets pumped up by 4:30pm so kids will miss the last hour of this ''Breakfast show'' your talking about .
JA
jake-watson
BBC Three 24 hours wouldn't be a bad thing but for it to work they would need to axe the cbbc brand. After all netflix don't brand their kids shows any differently. CBBC has tried to skew their drama older in recent years with the extension to 9PM, provided they did that with other genres e.g gameshows it could bridge quite nicely.
BA
Ballyboy
In the launch promo back in 2003 the song was three is a magic number, if it were to come back ( missed it too much), as a nod it should appear in a “ hey, we’re back” promo
LN
LondonNewsBites
Right, my idea

BBC Three might start at 9pm and end at 3/4am That way, CBBC keeps its current time.
Or...
What if the BBC flipped timesharing, so CBeebies is BBC Three and CBBC is BBC Four. Four should start at 8/8:30pm.
That way, BBC Three starts at its old time (CBeebies keeps its current time) CBBC ends 8/8:30pm.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
BBC Three 24 hours wouldn't be a bad thing but for it to work they would need to axe the cbbc brand.


Would they?

Quote:
After all netflix don't brand their kids shows any differently


Amazon do. And Netflix categorise their kids shows, even if the programmes don't carry that specific branding.

In the launch promo back in 2003 the song was three is a magic number, if it were to come back ( missed it too much), as a nod it should appear in a “ hey, we’re back” promo


Flux Capacitors are over there -> Aisle 2.
BR
Brekkie
How does CBBC rate from 7-9pm compared to how BBC3 did?
TC
TCOTV
LondonNewsBites I never said it was perfect. 7-9 it is.

The CBBC brand would not die. Just the channel. It would be styled as CBBC on Three. Then a new iPlayer Kids with CBBC page on there.

For what it’s worth I think BBC Three and BBC Four should be sold to UKTV. The BBC will still own them in some form and UKTV can be more competitive. I think the BBC should sell more assets to UKTV. That will please the Tory’s and keep the assets in some sort of BBC control so we won’t lose to much of them. I still don’t know why BBC did not do an exclusive deal with UKTV Play rather the BritBoxUK. The profit would go back into UKTV and BBCUK rather than mostly in ITV pockets.
JA
jake-watson
Would they?


cbeebies has a global brand and makes sense to keep it. The only time you see the cbbc logo in other parts of the world is if it had been a coproduction. keeping cbbc would only be for nostalgic reasons, after a couple of years the audience Moves on for the new generation of viewers they would not care as long as they’re interested in the content. Look whats happening with the sky channels at the moment, they appear to be branding based on genre like streaming services categories.

People would also perceive the loss of a brand which would help with the perception the BBC has got too big. - Also, theres also no joint package like the blobs like there was in 2002 which cbbc/cbeebies and three shared when they launched. There is not much cohesion in the branding of the channels at the moment it and kids dont like babyish things they move swiftly on to netflix/youtube/gaming etc.

Amazon do. And Netflix categorise their kids shows, even if the programmes don't carry that specific branding.


Most platforms EPGs just categorise it as kids. Besides its mostly young kids content that gets differentiated and cbeebies does that just fine, they were even talking a few years back overlapping cbeebies and cbbc content, not much came about that though. Maybe extending the age of CBeebies to 9 and have the 10+ audience under a relaunched bbc three would be the way forward.
AA
Amber Avenger
I always thought bbc three could do with a few panel shows, but I also thought QI and HIGNFY would be more bbc four


BBC3 once made a sort of half-hearted attempt at a panel show-within-sitcom with that Rob Brydon thing I can never remember the title of ('Reeling Back the Years' - although that could easily have just been the title of the fictional panel show). Both aspects of the show were actually entertaining enough on their own terms (I've certainly seen real panel shows that were much worse), but obviously it was ultimately neither fish nor fowl. I don't remember them bothering to even try with the panel show format, otherwise.

Only Connect has never been the same since they took it away from BBC Four and shoved it away on BBC2. No midnight repeat, for one thing.


That was Rob Brydon's Annually Retentive, which was the name of the show on BBC Three and also the show within a show. Reeling in the years was the theme tune.

Series 1 was a mix of panel show clips of the show and the behind the scenes elements probably 50/50, series 2 had minimal clips from the show and strongly focused on the story and was way more of a sitcom by then and I do wonder if it influenced The Trip even slightly with Rob struggling with his public persona. I thought it was pretty good, no classic but held up pretty well when I gave it a rewatch a few years ago. Always wondered if they filmed the panel show bits for real as a proper show. It looks like they did and whilst there were probably some scripted elements, probably wasn't all scripted.

BBC There did have a genuine venture into panel shows with "Sweat The Small Stuff" hosted by Nick Grimshaw, which never really took off in the mind of the public but still did get three or four series.

Not sure Only Connect is shoved away on BBC Two either, isn't it one of the channel's highest rating shows?
BA
Ballyboy
Ident wise they should keep the 2016 idents they were creative and nice
LN
LondonNewsBites
Would they?


cbeebies has a global brand and makes sense to keep it. The only time you see the cbbc logo in other parts of the world is if it had been a coproduction. keeping cbbc would only be for nostalgic reasons, after a couple of years the audience Moves on for the new generation of viewers they would not care as long as they’re interested in the content. Look whats happening with the sky channels at the moment, they appear to be branding based on genre like streaming services categories.

People would also perceive the loss of a brand which would help with the perception the BBC has got too big. - Also, theres also no joint package like the blobs like there was in 2002 which cbbc/cbeebies and three shared when they launched. There is not much cohesion in the branding of the channels at the moment it and kids dont like babyish things they move swiftly on to netflix/youtube/gaming etc.

Amazon do. And Netflix categorise their kids shows, even if the programmes don't carry that specific branding.


Most platforms EPGs just categorise it as kids. Besides its mostly young kids content that gets differentiated and cbeebies does that just fine, they were even talking a few years back overlapping cbeebies and cbbc content, not much came about that though. Maybe extending the age of CBeebies to 9 and have the 10+ audience under a relaunched bbc three would be the way forward.


''Maybe extending the age of CBeebies to 9 ''
Isn't CBeebies a preschool channel?

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