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WH
Whataday Founding member
London Lite posted:
Neil Jones posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
The theory that somebody can have no knowledge of something that pre-dates them is something I loathe.


Indeed. Aren't people always going to be "before their time" in certain areas? Archaeologists for example, or paleontologists.

With regards to films "made before many of the target audience were born", great films never die regardless of when they were made. Gone With The Wind, made 1939. Wizard Of Oz, 1939. Charlie Chaplin's The Kid, 1921.

Current IDMB Top 10: Newest film on it dates from 2008, oldest from 1957.


However would any of those classics be on target with the BBC Three audience? Probably not, same with Pretty Woman.


Which again begs the question over whether a channel for a specific age range of adults is actually relevant.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Whataday posted:
London Lite posted:
Neil Jones posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
The theory that somebody can have no knowledge of something that pre-dates them is something I loathe.


Indeed. Aren't people always going to be "before their time" in certain areas? Archaeologists for example, or paleontologists.

With regards to films "made before many of the target audience were born", great films never die regardless of when they were made. Gone With The Wind, made 1939. Wizard Of Oz, 1939. Charlie Chaplin's The Kid, 1921.

Current IDMB Top 10: Newest film on it dates from 2008, oldest from 1957.


However would any of those classics be on target with the BBC Three audience? Probably not, same with Pretty Woman.


Which again begs the question over whether a channel for a specific age range of adults is actually relevant.


Age demographics are still important for two reasons.

1. PSB - Enables the public service broadcaster to tightly target the relevant audience with appropriate programming with the funding to back it.

2. Advertising, as with radio, it enables commercial broadcasters to pigeon hole brands/channels so that an advertiser can choose which brand to advertise on. Stannah stairlifts are more likely to advertise on ITV3, Screwfix on ITV4 and a fashion brand on ITV2.
NC
NC5
Interesting point regarding the first hour of BBC Three tonight - CBBC pointed towards it in their last link of the day, specifically mentioning Wallace & Gromit. It's not the first time they've done this recently, either.

CBBC starting their extra hour a few months early, maybe Wink
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
London Lite posted:
Neil Jones posted:


With regards to films "made before many of the target audience were born", great films never die regardless of when they were made. Gone With The Wind, made 1939. Wizard Of Oz, 1939. Charlie Chaplin's The Kid, 1921..


However would any of those classics be on target with the BBC Three audience? Probably not, same with Pretty Woman.


Nobody said any of them would be suitable for BBC Three, the point is that they are all great films despite being made decades ago. You appeared to be insinuating that anything made before the turn of the century cannot possibly appeal to anybody aged between BBC Three's target audience, 25-34yrs old, and that's just not true.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Whataday posted:
London Lite posted:
Neil Jones posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
The theory that somebody can have no knowledge of something that pre-dates them is something I loathe.


Indeed. Aren't people always going to be "before their time" in certain areas? Archaeologists for example, or paleontologists.

With regards to films "made before many of the target audience were born", great films never die regardless of when they were made. Gone With The Wind, made 1939. Wizard Of Oz, 1939. Charlie Chaplin's The Kid, 1921.

Current IDMB Top 10: Newest film on it dates from 2008, oldest from 1957.


However would any of those classics be on target with the BBC Three audience? Probably not, same with Pretty Woman.


Which again begs the question over whether a channel for a specific age range of adults is actually relevant.


Much the same as BBC Radio and it's desperate bid to make Radio 1 alienate people in their late 20s/30s despite not having a service which is targeting that age range. (Will somebody make Chris Moyles an offer he can't refuse please!)
LL
London Lite Founding member
Neil Jones posted:
London Lite posted:
Neil Jones posted:


With regards to films "made before many of the target audience were born", great films never die regardless of when they were made. Gone With The Wind, made 1939. Wizard Of Oz, 1939. Charlie Chaplin's The Kid, 1921..


However would any of those classics be on target with the BBC Three audience? Probably not, same with Pretty Woman.


Nobody said any of them would be suitable for BBC Three, the point is that they are all great films despite being made decades ago. You appeared to be insinuating that anything made before the turn of the century cannot possibly appeal to anybody aged between BBC Three's target audience, 25-34yrs old, and that's just not true.


My point is you wouldn't schedule them on BBC Three. It's all about branding and providing programming tightly targeted at that age range.

Those classic films would be fine on a broad general entertainment and film channel. It's similar to how you wouldn't regularly schedule 80s music from the same era on Radio 1 despite the music having some appeal in the Three demo.
LL
Larry the Loafer
Depends on the film. I haven't seen Pretty Woman so I can't say for sure, but something like Ferris Bueller's Day Off wouldn't go amiss on BBC Three, and that's older than Pretty Woman.

And if your average BBC Three viewer hasn't seen said film, there's a good chance Family Guy would've referenced it.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Larry the Loafer posted:
Depends on the film. I haven't seen Pretty Woman so I can't say for sure, but something like Ferris Bueller's Day Off wouldn't go amiss on BBC Three, and that's older than Pretty Woman.

And if your average BBC Three viewer hasn't seen said film, there's a good chance Family Guy would've referenced it.


Agreed. The Breakfast Club and Porky's should also be fine for the demo.
BA
bilky asko
Larry the Loafer posted:
The theory that somebody can have no knowledge of something that pre-dates them is something I loathe. I feel like slapping Bradley Walsh on The Chase when he says things like "you won't know this, this is before your time" when he asks a twentysomething contestant about a 1970s film.


Except, most of the time, he's right. There are so many occasions where a question that's obvious to people in their fifties or sixties is completely lost on someone in their twenties.
IN
Interceptor
So, are CBBC going to treat the extra hour like they used to treat Sunday afternoons; with 'family' programming (The Chronicles of Narnia; Five Children and It - maybe they'd be a bit too old fashioned now?).
JA
Jasondavidfrank
Would be nice or classic cbbc shows.

10 days later

MA
Markymark
BBC 3 closure deferred

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/bbc3-move-delayed-until-2016/5086855.article?blocktitle=Top-Stories&contentID=2298

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