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elmarko1,111 posts since 27 Jul 2010
STV Central Reporting Scotland
Threats are nothing new, but threats in the current period create a rather different atmosphere. We have certain movements and ideology going on, and seemingly our ability to remember that human brains and emotions are fallible has been forgotten too. The motivations of the people currently running things seem very irrational and emotionally-led.

I realise this is all very generic discussion, but none of you need anything pointing about how the world looks right now.
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scottishtv1,804 posts since 6 Nov 2001
STV Central Reporting Scotland
Oh, what a surprise.

The Times posted:
Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, told Sky News that the government had not made any “preordained” decisions on future funding models. “I would be pretty cautious of some unattributed comments,” he said. “There is a consultation out there. It is just a consultation at this stage. There are no further decisions made at all. The BBC is a much loved national treasure. We all want it to be a huge success. But everybody, including the BBC themselves, recognises that in a changing world the BBC will have to change.”
Mr Kite901 posts since 15 Aug 2007
Granada North West Today
Nothing will materialise of these threats, they are simply a distraction and a little bit of meat thrown to the ultra conservatives who hate nearly everything about the BBC - but I bet most of them use it every single day.


Perhaps. But regardless: the current funding model for the BBC is unsustainable in the medium term. The cän can be kicked down the road a few more times, but the distance it can be kicked is getting shorter all the time.
JKDerry2,458 posts since 15 Oct 2016
UTV Newsline
Nothing will materialise of these threats, they are simply a distraction and a little bit of meat thrown to the ultra conservatives who hate nearly everything about the BBC - but I bet most of them use it every single day.


Perhaps. But regardless: the current funding model for the BBC is unsustainable in the medium term. The cän can be kicked down the road a few more times, but the distance it can be kicked is getting shorter all the time.

Oh I agree with you on that - the current model has to end in 2027 without a doubt, but what do you replace it with?

There is a possibility of abolishing the licence fee and putting a "broadcasting" tax into the current council tax bills per year. This idea was floated earlier and it could be a way of ensuring households who find it hard to pay the licence fee now will only have to pay a smaller amount in their council tax each year toward the BBC.
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Charlie Wells3,867 posts since 26 Nov 2003 Moderator
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)
Not all commercial services have to be profitable: look at Sky News , and note that Times Radio discussed elsewhere is planned to be commercial-free and presumably loss-making).

Being cynical I can't help noting that Times Radio is owned by Murdoch, as is the Times newspaper. With that in mind I wonder why a newspaper might possibly suggest the BBC's radio channels could be sold off as part of the licence fee being axed, and who might want to the buy these stations...
"Listen, we've all got something to bring to this conversation, but from now on what I think you should bring is silence." - Rimmer
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Ian B4 posts since 16 Feb 2020 new member
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)
I don't want to talk too much about these people as they don't deserve the time or emotional investment but Cummings is some what the radical and Johnson is trying to be a centre right PM.

Pensioners (who vote in droves) are kicking off enough as it is about the threat of losing free tv licenses. Imagine the uproar if they stuck countryfile, bargain hunt and strictly behind a paywall and forced them to pay.

The tories are supposed to be the party of getting out of everyone's way and letting them get on with their lives. Unfortunately for them, despite their free market values, in this country that actually means watching and listening to the bbc.
gordonthegopher266 posts since 10 Feb 2007
UTV Newsline
Nothing will materialise of these threats, they are simply a distraction and a little bit of meat thrown to the ultra conservatives who hate nearly everything about the BBC - but I bet most of them use it every single day.


Perhaps. But regardless: the current funding model for the BBC is unsustainable in the medium term. The cän can be kicked down the road a few more times, but the distance it can be kicked is getting shorter all the time.

Oh I agree with you on that - the current model has to end in 2027 without a doubt, but what do you replace it with?

There is a possibility of abolishing the licence fee and putting a "broadcasting" tax into the current council tax bills per year. This idea was floated earlier and it could be a way of ensuring households who find it hard to pay the licence fee now will only have to pay a smaller amount in their council tax each year toward the BBC.

Add it to the cost of an internet package?
Neil Jones6,209 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today



This was recommended in the Peacock Report of 1986 and as usual was buried after a few weeks of it in the press - take no notice of this nonsense.


The Peacock Report was commissioned by Thatcher with the express intent that it would recommend scrapping the licence fee, and then it went in completely the other direction to what she was expecting, so the issue was dropped, but a large chunk of the report's other recommendations would go on to live in the form of the 1990 Broadcasting Act.
TedJrr206 posts since 11 Sep 2005
Anglia (East) Look East


Council tax wouldn't necessarily cover second homes, and how would you collect from businesses?


Where second homes are let out commercially (if only superficially) non-domestic rates are charged instead. These can attract small business rate relief.

This in itself is something that many people are urging the government to reform.

A business with a television could be required to pay a fee, perhaps the BBC would contract with PRS to manage this?
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