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DVB Cornwall8,654 posts since 4 Dec 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
I must admit, the closing of the News and Sport Apps is a surprise, the navigation to News and Sport content on the iPlayer will need significant changes to get people across to the content that's being (well some of it has already been duplicated) transferred there. The reappearance of BBC Audio content on Connected TV is most welcome though, with BBC Sounds joining the platforms.

I'm wondering whether at the end of January we might see at least the start of the launch of the extended window for iPlayer content too. It does seem to be a pivotal point with these 'interactive feature' changes.
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BM111,262 posts since 2 Jun 2017
London London
I must admit, the closing of the News and Sport Apps is a surprise, the navigation to News and Sport content on the iPlayer will need significant changes to get people across to the content that's being (well some of it has already been duplicated) transferred there. The reappearance of BBC Audio content on Connected TV is most welcome though, with BBC Sounds joining the platforms.

I'm wondering whether at the end of January we might see at least the start of the launch of the extended window for iPlayer content too. It does seem to be a pivotal point with these 'interactive feature' changes.

Eastenders is already up for 12 months- since september.
DVB Cornwall8,654 posts since 4 Dec 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
Selected content has been yes, the vast bulk though is still subject to the 'traditional' window.

EDIT

I'd suggest a new top level on the iPlayer hierachy featuring four menu items, so that News and Sport get pushed up the tree, and that only the 'other' Categories would be reached with another button press.

Channels - News - Sport - Categories

(I'm still bamboozled as to how 12 months worth of content will be indexed across the product incidentally)
Last edited by DVB Cornwall on 18 November 2019 10:59pm
Brekkie32,568 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
I must admit, the closing of the News and Sport Apps is a surprise, the navigation to News and Sport content on the iPlayer will need significant changes to get people across to the content that's being (well some of it has already been duplicated) transferred there.

There has been quite a bit of confusion about whether the Connected text service would remain - the apps could go and the content remain on the red button, but the pointing of people to the iPlayer suggests perhaps not and it'll just be video content, most of which is pretty awful now compared to previously when you had the option to play a summary of the headlines and effectively create your own news bulletin. Now it's cheap made for the internet crap on the whole.


That said worth noting that recently BBC Sport have been advertising content which they'd have previously said was on the connected red button or on the BBC Sport app as being on the iPlayer, so perhaps everything on the red button will be under the iPlayer brand from the new year.
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Charlie Wells3,809 posts since 26 Nov 2003 Moderator
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)
A couple little snippets from the BBC blog...
Quote:
BBC iPlayer will become the home of much of the video content that is currently available on the BBC Sport and BBC News apps on TVs.

...This seems to imply that the video clip elements of the News and Sports apps will be hosted via the iPlayer. Presumably some audio clips (are there any currently?) will also be available via the BBC Sounds app.

Also...
Quote:
And just to stress, it is just the red-button text service that is closing. The video elements - such as allowing you to watch extra courts at Wimbledon, or stages from Glastonbury - will continue.

Does this mean the red button stream will also still be available on Freeview, albeit just one stream compared to other platforms?

It's good to see that the BBC Sounds app is coming to connected TV. It's been a few years since BBC radio catchup was last available on Virgin Media (I've no idea if it used to be possible on Sky). As Brekkie speculated I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the long term plan might be to eventually axe the radio channels from Sky & Virgin if further cost savings are needed. They'd be able to cite how much the BBC Sounds app is used since it launched as the reason/excuse.
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Spencer (previously Spencer For Hire) 5,974 posts since 13 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
You'd think with the launch of the BBC Sounds app on Connected TV that the radio channels should be the next thing to go.


Not sure that'd be a good idea just at the moment. There must still be a lot of non-connected Freeview TVs out there - in particular smaller sets popular in bedrooms and kitchens where arguably you're more likely to be listening to the radio than on the big set in the living room.

Also, as I understand it, the radio channels don't take up a huge amount of mux bandwith, so I'm not sure there's a lot to be gained from pulling them.
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TheMike52 posts since 12 Jan 2019
Central (East) East Midlands Today
A couple little snippets from the BBC blog...
Quote:
BBC iPlayer will become the home of much of the video content that is currently available on the BBC Sport and BBC News apps on TVs.

...This seems to imply that the video clip elements of the News and Sports apps will be hosted via the iPlayer. Presumably some audio clips (are there any currently?) will also be available via the BBC Sounds app.

Also...
Quote:
And just to stress, it is just the red-button text service that is closing. The video elements - such as allowing you to watch extra courts at Wimbledon, or stages from Glastonbury - will continue.

Does this mean the red button stream will also still be available on Freeview, albeit just one stream compared to other platforms?

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Yes. BBC RB1 continues on all platforms. Since the autumn of 2012, it's been one stream on all linear platforms, except for a few weeks in the summer, when additional streams are live on Sky, Freesat, Virgin and some areas on Freeview.
TheMike52 posts since 12 Jan 2019
Central (East) East Midlands Today
Selected content has been yes, the vast bulk though is still subject to the 'traditional' window.

EDIT

I'd suggest a new top level on the iPlayer hierachy featuring four menu items, so that News and Sport get pushed up the tree, and that only the 'other' Categories would be reached with another button press.

Channels - News - Sport - Categories

(I'm still bamboozled as to how 12 months worth of content will be indexed across the product incidentally)

I reckon the Red Button+ landing screen will be amended to provide shortcuts to news, sport and any other live events for connected TV users.

It probably won't be as urgent on other device platforms, where BBC News and Sport apps continue.
TheMike52 posts since 12 Jan 2019
Central (East) East Midlands Today
With around 0.9Mbps of data carried on the BBC A multiplex, I suspect come 31st January or shortly thereafter, it will be possible for the BBC to broadcast more of its radio stations in the evenings in Scotland via Freeview - they currently go off-air during BBC Alba's hours.
AJ1,723 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
Also is the connected version available on SkyQ - I know on Sky+ only the text version was available.


Sky Q only has the text version available, which can only be accessed by the red button, as the Sky Q remote doesn’t have a text button.


Sky Q has just launched the connected red button version in the last week, coinciding with the launch of the full iPlayer streaming app.