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BBC suspends phone competitions

(July 2007)

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GMc
p_c_u_k posted:
For those who don't look at the BBC One general news thread (and I normally don't)...

Fun for BBC Scotland viewers tonight. One of the phone-in scandals illustrated in the headline sequence featured a BBC Scotland optout from Children in Need with Jackie Bird. 10 seconds later Jackie Bird comes on air to do the Scottish headline sequence. Very Happy


Yeah, I saw that. She must have been so embarrassed. I cannot stand her, but I did kind of feel a tad sorry for her. Very Happy
PT
Put The Telly On
Well, totally embarrassing for the BBC - why they or someone didn't investigate earlier I don't know (?).

Its abysmal, words fail me. I expect this to be front page news on the Daily Mail tomorrow! what what chaps.
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Johnny83
nok32uk posted:
Well, totally embarrassing for the BBC - why they or someone didn't investigate earlier I don't know (?).

Its abysmal, words fail me. I expect this to be front page news on the Daily Mail tomorrow! what what chaps.


Not on the Daily Star though, more along the lines of "Ziggy gets back with bird again" or something along those lines Rolling Eyes Laughing

To be honest it's quite bad of them but you know it happens, wouldn't be suprised if most channels have done or do the same.
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Andrew Founding member
nok32uk posted:
Well, totally embarrassing for the BBC - why they or someone didn't investigate earlier I don't know (?).

Its abysmal, words fail me. I expect this to be front page news on the Daily Mail tomorrow! what what chaps.

It's on the front of the Daily Telegraph and The Sun at least according to ITV News

The Daily Express is leading with something to do with Muslims
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
James Vertigan posted:
0870 numbers are charged at a "National Rate" - I think it's around 9p a minute. 0845 numbers are charged at a "Local Rate" - they're around 4p a minute.

Sorry James, but from a BT landline there is now only one rate for both national and local calls and it's CONSIDERABLY LESS than either the three or four pence a minute for 084 calls or the eight or nine pence a minute for 087 calls.

This is why people are so unhappy about these 08 calls, which have, effectively, become PREMIUM rate, as "normal" costs have reduced significantly.
JE
Jenny Founding member
Andrew posted:
The Daily Express is leading with something to do with Muslims


MUSLIMS PLOT TO KILL DIANA AGAIN
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besty
Brekkie Boy posted:
James Vertigan posted:
besty posted:
Hymagumba posted:
[What phone number does 6music use again... oh yes an 08700 number. Funny that.


Aren't 08700 local rate...?


0870 numbers are charged at a "National Rate" - I think it's around 9p a minute. 0845 numbers are charged at a "Local Rate" - they're around 4p a minute.



They can still make a profit on these though, only a few pence a call - but it all adds up.


I'm pretty sure they don't as it's the BBC and they can't make profit that way. OK I know I'm saying this in a thread about phone related deception at the BBC - but I doubt they would be as blatantly stupid to try and make profit from an 087 number, as they'd have been caught by now. Or so you would have thought Wink
PC
Paul Clark
I don't doubt this has happened with other broadcasters generally.

Though, there is always going to be that extra pressure and high expectation on the BBC, given their public funding, that such deceit is never, ever allowed to happen. Yet it has, and futhermore so during established fundraising events like CIN and Comic Relief. It's both shameful and not particularly reassuring to us that after the whole Blue Peter fiasco, all these new instances have cropped up.

Crucially, the 'Plan A' in the event of any technical problems involving phone-in competitions, must - from now and in the future - be that the phone-in is declared ceased; and presenters are then open and honest, that there has been a problem - instead of trying to 'rescue' the situation and keep it on-air by rather foolishly grabbing a member of the production team to pose as a winner, leaving genuine participants unaware.

Looks like certain staff really do need to be told as a rule that honesty and transparency towards the public comes before keeping a show running smoothly - and not the other way around. Because at least a handful of folks there have failed to understand that, sadly at the expense of others.
MA
Markymark
Nick Harvey posted:
James Vertigan posted:
0870 numbers are charged at a "National Rate" - I think it's around 9p a minute. 0845 numbers are charged at a "Local Rate" - they're around 4p a minute.

Sorry James, but from a BT landline there is now only one rate for both national and local calls and it's CONSIDERABLY LESS than either the three or four pence a minute for 084 calls or the eight or nine pence a minute for 087 calls.

This is why people are so unhappy about these 08 calls, which have, effectively, become PREMIUM rate, as "normal" costs have reduced significantly.


Indeed. There's a site that will give you the geographic (01/02) equivalents for many 08* numbers.

www.saynoto0870.com
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B.B.C C.O.N
Just why are BBC been coning it viewers. The BBC to be ment whiter than white.
JE
Jenny Founding member
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH! No "Popmaster"!
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tvarksouthwest
p_c_u_k posted:
For those who don't look at the BBC One general news thread (and I normally don't)...

Fun for BBC Scotland viewers tonight. One of the phone-in scandals illustrated in the headline sequence featured a BBC Scotland optout from Children in Need with Jackie Bird. 10 seconds later Jackie Bird comes on air to do the Scottish headline sequence. Very Happy

I think the time has come to ditch Raven, since this is the second scandal the show has been embroiled in. You may already know that (at least in the show's early days), the "contestants" were actually stage school children, and this was a shameful deception of the young audience watching at home who probably thought the participants were their peers. If someone wrote in wanting to be a contestant on Raven, what were they told?

And what of Raven himself - did he know about the CIN deception? If he did he's as guilty as the production team.

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