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BBC squashing all credits still more

(May 2007)

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tvarksouthwest
Funny how most of the waffle in a BBC Information e-mail is about what happens to viewers' comments (jack sh*t) rather than answering the specific comment or query...
DI
digiperson
There was a BBC One 'next' slug at the end of Play It Again just now. Not sure if this needs its own thread.

digiperson
JR
jrothwell97
digiperson posted:
There was a BBC One 'next' slug at the end of Play It Again just now. Not sure if this needs its own thread.


Yes, and it wasn't anything like BBC2's slug - it was garish, intrusive and badly animated, sliding on and off the screen. Couldn't they at least be more subtle?

And the BBC1 logo looked odd on it. Why can't slugs be confined to the end credits like on C4?
AS
Asa Admin
Shocking, isn't it? Aside from the debate that we really shouldn't have to suffer IPPs on the BBC's main channel, there's a million and one ways it could look and animate better. Why not use the circle effect to animate it on and off? Have the graphic fit the length of the programme name (I'm sure the couple I've seen have it the same length regardless).

I guess the first programme to show off the new ECP is likely to be Neighbours that Monday evening and knowing the show, I'm sure the credit design won't be ready for that day and they'll just shrink the small, right aligned text, cutting part of it off.
LO
LONDON
Asa posted:
Shocking, isn't it? Aside from the debate that we really shouldn't have to suffer IPPs on the BBC's main channel, there's a million and one ways it could look and animate better. Why not use the circle effect to animate it on and off? Have the graphic fit the length of the programme name (I'm sure the couple I've seen have it the same length regardless).

I guess the first programme to show off the new ECP is likely to be Neighbours that Monday evening and knowing the show, I'm sure the credit design won't be ready for that day and they'll just shrink the small, right aligned text, cutting part of it off.


I think that for Neighbours we may just get the Australian credits, albeit a shorter version, it is not like previous redesigns, when there was only one credit design for the programme, this time there are 3.
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r2ro
I'm quite disappointed that these promotion slugs are making a return as they really are obtrusive and far from useful as the announcer just repeats what's coming up next anyway over the actual credits.

As for these new ECP guildelines, why can't they just put the credits on the right hand side (half screen) and then a separate ECP on the left (half screen) as it is currently? That way you can still see the credits and the ECP and it doesn't look that bad compared to some other ideas.
I still see no point in introducing these guidelines.
KA
Katnap
Charlie Brooker's comments about the new BBC guidelines on end credits.
PC
Paul Clark
Katnap posted:
Charlie Brooker's comments about the new BBC guidelines on end credits.


Mr Brooker certainly knows the score, doesn't he!

Looking ahead, I was willing to forgive any commercial broadcaster for such a level of obtrusive squashing and plugging - but this is the Beeb we are talking about and something within me says this is particularly wrong.

We stand to gain absolutely nothing from this; shoving promotions down our throats for programmes that we will never care to watch, just becomes clutter that that further rots junctions and ruins them - as well as the credits that fall victim.

There's the public to think about first, but the other aspect that worries me is how this inevitably will stifle much of the creativity that could otherwise be placed into credits, by the makers themselves - limiting their choices and forcing them to conform to guidelines just to get the credits ready for the cram. I should imagine some of them won't be particularly pleased

Then, there's the issue of the credit time limits depending on the show type - this will require re-editing all affected theme tunes to ensure they fit the duration and don't exceed it, and quite possibly similar trimming of the credit content to start removing people who contributed to a programme because their involvement is not considered worthy of mention...

...And of course, as has been said, while a continuity announcer interrupting the closing theme to a great episode of Doctor Who or the curtain call of Life on Mars can serve as a disappointment, these new guidelines are going to completely suck every last drop of enjoyment out of such instances.

So, here's to the new guidelines. And all this, made only possible due to the unique way the BBC is funded.
JE
Jenny Founding member
I wonder if Top Gear, which messes around with its credits from time to time, will put up something like this...

PRESENTED BY
JEREMY CLARKSON
RICHARD HAMMOND
JAMES MAY
and
THE STIG

WHAT THE HECK
YOU CAN'T READ THIS ANYWAY

BLAH
BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH

BLAH
BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH

c BBC 2007
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tvarksouthwest
Paul Clark posted:
Mr Brooker certainly knows the score, doesn't he!

Well I just hope he can appeal to his commissioning editor before his new series starts...
JR
jrothwell97
Jenny posted:
I wonder if Top Gear, which messes around with its credits from time to time, will put up something like this...

PRESENTED BY
JEREMY CLARKSON
RICHARD HAMMOND
JAMES MAY
and
THE STIG

WHAT THE HECK
YOU CAN'T READ THIS ANYWAY

BLAH
BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH

BLAH
BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH

c BBC 2007


If only...

PRESENTED BY
JEREMY CLARKSON
RICHARD HAMMOND
JAMES MAY
THE STIG
and TOP GEAR DOG

CREDITS SQUEEZED BY
BBC MARKETING

COMPLAINTS TO
I HATE THOSE CLOTS WHO THINK WE'RE INCAPABLE OF READING THE RADIO TIMES
BBC TOP GEAR
WOOD LANE
W1A 7TS

BINOCULARS SUPPLIED BY
SMITH & SON'S OF LONDON

AK-47s FOR USE ON MARKETING CAN BE OBTAINED FROM
0800 IHATEMARKETING
JS
Janner south west
jrothwell97 posted:
Jenny posted:
I wonder if Top Gear, which messes around with its credits from time to time, will put up something like this...

PRESENTED BY
JEREMY CLARKSON
RICHARD HAMMOND
JAMES MAY
and
THE STIG

WHAT THE HECK
YOU CAN'T READ THIS ANYWAY

BLAH
BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH

BLAH
BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH

c BBC 2007


If only...

PRESENTED BY
JEREMY CLARKSON
RICHARD HAMMOND
JAMES MAY
THE STIG
and TOP GEAR DOG

CREDITS SQUEEZED BY
BBC MARKETING

COMPLAINTS TO
I HATE THOSE CLOTS WHO THINK WE'RE INCAPABLE OF READING THE RADIO TIMES
BBC TOP GEAR
WOOD LANE
W1A 7TS

BINOCULARS SUPPLIED BY
SMITH & SON'S OF LONDON

AK-47s FOR USE ON MARKETING CAN BE OBTAINED FROM
0800 IHATEMARKETING


Good one! Laughing

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