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Glossing over any controversial moments from the last half a decade.
For their 40th IIRC they had previous presenters back to guest host various shows - though that was as a result of Richard Bacon being sacked and them being a presenter short for a few months more than anything.
Link :
http://www.thevervoid.com/spoon/bppresenters.htm
A former member
Brekkie Boy posted:
AJG posted:
Does anyone know what Blue Peter will be doing for their 50th birthday next year?
Glossing over any controversial moments from the last half a decade.
For their 40th IIRC they had previous presenters back to guest host various shows - though that was as a result of Richard Bacon being sacked and them being a presenter short for a few months more than anything.
Link :
http://www.thevervoid.com/spoon/bppresenters.htm
JF
EEW! The new background is just discusting, even the one with the flying arrows was way better!
LE
I suppose the reason these channels are giving up their kids channels is because they are focusing on their own digital channels instead. CiTV and CBBC have their own channels now.
TV
But those channels don't have a hope in hell of attracting anything near the audiences required for decent, high budget children's drama, the sort that would appeal not just to children but other sections of the audience too.
Only by being on BBC1 and ITV1 can such shows be assured a future. And children's programming on the main channels should be seen as "the sprat that catches the mackerel".
LeeStewart_x3x posted:
CiTV and CBBC have their own channels now.
But those channels don't have a hope in hell of attracting anything near the audiences required for decent, high budget children's drama, the sort that would appeal not just to children but other sections of the audience too.
Only by being on BBC1 and ITV1 can such shows be assured a future. And children's programming on the main channels should be seen as "the sprat that catches the mackerel".
NW
But those channels don't have a hope in hell of attracting anything near the audiences required for decent, high budget children's drama, the sort that would appeal not just to children but other sections of the audience too.
I agree with what you're saying about the budget and quality, but the audiences for CBBC, CBeebies and CITV tends to be very good. if you wish to look at BARB's website, the BBC ones often get upto 250,000 for the top programme and CITV gets just under 200,000, sometimes on ITV1 the ratings might not have been double that.
If I had it my way, although it will never ever happen, I'd say for Kids programmes on ITV1 to be scrapped but for the regulator to set a minimum quota of original programming for the channel? Isn't that the way foward, CITV on ITV1 in the afternoon probably won't be returning anytime soon due to the fact the new programmes and repeats that have replaced them have increased ITV1's Daytime audience share.
tvarksouthwest posted:
LeeStewart_x3x posted:
CiTV and CBBC have their own channels now.
But those channels don't have a hope in hell of attracting anything near the audiences required for decent, high budget children's drama, the sort that would appeal not just to children but other sections of the audience too.
I agree with what you're saying about the budget and quality, but the audiences for CBBC, CBeebies and CITV tends to be very good. if you wish to look at BARB's website, the BBC ones often get upto 250,000 for the top programme and CITV gets just under 200,000, sometimes on ITV1 the ratings might not have been double that.
If I had it my way, although it will never ever happen, I'd say for Kids programmes on ITV1 to be scrapped but for the regulator to set a minimum quota of original programming for the channel? Isn't that the way foward, CITV on ITV1 in the afternoon probably won't be returning anytime soon due to the fact the new programmes and repeats that have replaced them have increased ITV1's Daytime audience share.
TV
The repeats may have pushed up ITV1's audience, but justr because something rates higher doesn't mean it provides the viewer with the best possible service.
NW
Indeed true, but if you were sat in Michael Grade's chair and trying to balance the priorities of the business which would come first?
Although Children's is a public service, it costs too much for commercial broadcasters to produce and they're getting little in return of audience and advertising, due to the rather immense competiion and the rather lewd Junk Food advertising ban.
It's not the Halcyon days where the only times you could see Kids shows were on BBC1 and ITV between 4pm and 5pm.
tvarksouthwest posted:
The repeats may have pushed up ITV1's audience, but justr because something rates higher doesn't mean it provides the viewer with the best possible service.
Indeed true, but if you were sat in Michael Grade's chair and trying to balance the priorities of the business which would come first?
Although Children's is a public service, it costs too much for commercial broadcasters to produce and they're getting little in return of audience and advertising, due to the rather immense competiion and the rather lewd Junk Food advertising ban.
It's not the Halcyon days where the only times you could see Kids shows were on BBC1 and ITV between 4pm and 5pm.
TV
It's still too easy for Michael Grade and other commercial broadcasters to hide behind the "competition" excuse. Broadcasters have been doing that to some extent for almost 20 years now as a quick scapegoat for their ills.
And parents believe original, home-grown children's TV is now more important than ever:
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,,2022627,00.html
nwtv2003 posted:
Indeed true, but if you were sat in Michael Grade's chair and trying to balance the priorities of the business which would come first?
Although Children's is a public service, it costs too much for commercial broadcasters to produce and they're getting little in return of audience and advertising, due to the rather immense competiion and the rather lewd Junk Food advertising ban.
Although Children's is a public service, it costs too much for commercial broadcasters to produce and they're getting little in return of audience and advertising, due to the rather immense competiion and the rather lewd Junk Food advertising ban.
It's still too easy for Michael Grade and other commercial broadcasters to hide behind the "competition" excuse. Broadcasters have been doing that to some extent for almost 20 years now as a quick scapegoat for their ills.
And parents believe original, home-grown children's TV is now more important than ever:
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,,2022627,00.html