Wales use the standard BBC blocks on opening titles, with a small version of their animating red Cymru Wales patch on closing credits. A full-frame version of this animation is shown in Wales before local programmes.
I think I prefer them using just the standard BBC logo on the titles - practically everything made by the BBC in the last 12 years has had it, and after all, English regions and independents don't get their logo instead.
That's the rule of thumb anyway, but it all seems to go out the window a bit when the Nations contribute to one of the network "big brand" shows like Panorama or Songs of Praise, when typically you'll get the BBC blocks at the start and (technically defunct) old-style BBC Northern Ireland/ BBC Wales branding at the end.
That's interesting - I haven't seen the old BBC Wales branding on any new programmes for a long time (IIRC the most recent "Doctor Who" episodes had the new logo at the end). It's no surprise if that's happened - BBC News programmes regularly pick poor-quality or defunct logos for on-screen graphics.
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forums/topic29454/page1
I'm sure someone linked to River City which has a similar logo on its opening credits.
It was me, on
page 7 of that thread, but it doesn't work now, so I'll post it again - last Tuesday's
River City
with the BBC Scotland logo animation at the
start and
end - and I'll also do yesterday's
Panic Attack
with BBC NI logo at the
start and
end, with a BBC NI credit squeeze too.
(The old Nations versions of the Forest ident are still there, incidentally.)
I've put a couple of other points about the red box for anyone who's interested in the spoiler box below:
- Any BBC Wales-produced programme, whether local or networked, is preceded by the red full-frame sting when shown on BBC One/Two Wales. The sting comes after the normal ident - the whole thing is usually simulated on the iPlayer (
click here for an example).
- The red box animates at the end of the closing credits on almost all English-language BBC Wales material - even
Wales Today
has it. On the short bulletins, it replaces the BBC News box on the closing titles sting, though doesn't animate.
- All Welsh-language material uses a blue logo instead of a red one. I don't think I've ever seen the blue version of the pre-programme full-frame sting on S4C
(I might be mistaken, though)
but it does exist and is used on the iPlayer (
example). Instead, they use a white version of their logo over the titles like BBC Scotland and BBC NI do (but on English programmes it's just the normal blocks).
- On S4C, the logo only reads "BBC Cymru" whereas on BBC One/Two Wales it's always "BBC Cymru Wales". This is a new thing - the old Gill Sans logo read "BBC Wales" only on English programmes.