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BBC Salaries 2018/19 Revealed

(July 2019)

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SP
Steve in Pudsey
The figures released exclude stuff made by BBC Studios, so disregarding Strictly is entirely reasonable.

It does make the whole exercise pointless, however.
BA
bilky asko
AlexS posted:
Strictly is excluded.


Why?

Claudia Winkleman has a regular slot on Radio 2, and also hosted Britain's Best Home Cook, and The Biggest Weekend in 2018. The wage seems understandable to me.

Strictly is produced by a 'commercial' arm of the BBC and therefore isn't included in the released figures.


Ah, I construed "excluded" as meaning that Strictly didn't count as top of the genre.
JO
Jon
AlexS posted:
Strictly is produced by a 'commercial' arm of the BBC and therefore isn't included in the released figures.


Isn't virtually everything made for BBC TV now classed as commercial now that BBC studios has been spun off? How much stuff is still made in house now, just news?

BBC produced News, Sport and I think Children's.
BM
BM11


JA
james-2001
BM11 posted:




It's his party that cut off paying for them in the first place (and battered the BBC in other ways), which is why they're being scrapped.
LL
Larry the Loafer
It's like a man setting fire to somebody's house and then blaming the homeowners for not having a sprinkler system.
Hadrien and james-2001 gave kudos
NG
noggin Founding member
AlexS posted:
Strictly is produced by a 'commercial' arm of the BBC and therefore isn't included in the released figures.


Isn't virtually everything made for BBC TV now classed as commercial now that BBC studios has been spun off? How much stuff is still made in house now, just news?


News, Sport and Children's aren't part of BBC Studios and only a small amount of radio is part of BBC Studios. (I think comedy is)
RK
Rkolsen
Jon posted:
Yes and regardless of that, PM is one of the few jobs those who do it probably would and could do it without the salary attached, it’s also one of the only jobs you can do where you can’t really ask for a pay rise.

It’s a terrible gauge to use to determine what anyone else should be earning.

It also widely understood (well it used to be) that - much like being the President of the United States - considering the importance of the job, you don't get paid a huge amount whilst doing it but the potential opportunities after you've done the job make up for that.


One thing people forget about the presidency is that despite all the amenities the president and their family have to cover personal costs that are unrelated to the job. The cooks will cook dinner for the family as it’s their job but they have to pay for food. If the president travels for campaigning he has to pay the equivalent of a first class air fare ticket, same goes for vacation accommodations (although the secret service will cover extra security covering the houses). I believe the Clintons said when they left the White House they didn’t have much money left and the Obamas were shocked at the food bill.

I imagine the prime minister has to reimburse personal expenses as well.

Anyway back on track.
DJ
DJGM
In today's "The Sun Says" column, they're now comparing Lineker's salary for hosting MoTD from when Jimmy Hill hosted the show in the 70s and 80s . . .

Quote:

Gary’s net gains

FANCY that! Gary Lineker earns ÂŁ1.75million for his BBC work.

This includes presenting Match of the Day which can attract
a Saturday night audience of fewer than 4million viewers.

Jimmy Hill pulled in viewing figures of 12million on the same
show, but only earned £130,000 in today’s money, 13 times
less than Lineker.

It’s a funny old game.

Rolling Eyes
BF
BFGArmy
Really does benefit nobody other than the BBC bashers to release this info.

Cue BM11 in...


Are you sure about that?

I think it has actually highlighted some serious failings within the BBC to pay it's people fairly rather than what it can get away with...I wish every workplace had to do it....btw, thinking of Carrie Gracey here but I'm sure there are many others we didn't hear about who were significantly underpaid compared to colleagues.


The different is that at this end of the scale, people are paid whatever they (or more likely their agent) can negotiate, so to bring gender pay gaps into it is a somewhat false equivalence. It's down to how in demand an individual is.

So, Gary Lineker is pretty unique as a high profile ex-footballer who is a good enough broadcaster that he can host the show rather than just be a pundit. Sky, BT and others would love to have him work for them, so the BBC have to pay the going rate if they want to keep him.


BT do use already though for their Champions League coverage. And if Sky and ITV did want to sign him up they surely would have since the main presenter roles have come up at both in recent times - in 2011 & 2016 for Sky and 2015 for ITV.

I actually don't think most of the salaries are too ridiculous (and for things like radio, people do listen for the talent) but the Lineker does stick out a lot.
People watch the football for the football not because Lineker is hosting. And Mark Chapman does similar, if not more work than Lineker, at a better quality for a fraction of the wage. Lineker does do MOTD and feature heavily during Euros/World Cups on TV but then Mark Chapman does MOTD2 and leads radio coverage of those competitons but also does 5 Live Sport a few times a week, Golf radio coverage, NFL, Rugby League. Wage differentials like that do stick out since the two are doing the same role and there's a big difference in cost.

And as I say people I'm pretty sure viewing figures for things like the Euros aren't dependent on it being Lieneker anchored.
JO
Jon
BM11 posted:



So a politician refuses to comment on something as you’d expect them to do. I’m not sure what the point of posting that is.
BR
Brekkie
They'll all happily slag Lineker off in the front pages (and it's not his salary which has made him an enemy of some quarters of the press) but then report some unknown early-20 something has just signed for a mid-tier Premier League club for ÂŁ50k a week on the backpage.

The trouble though with publishing the salaries is it's clearly driving salaries up rather than down - people are seeing what other people are getting paid and quite rightly if in a similar role or offered a similar role they expect to get the same level of pay.

Without publishing these figures the BBC could probably save ÂŁ1m-ÂŁ1.25m a year by offering the top job to the brilliant Mark Chapman and letting Lineker earn his cash elsewhere, but now anybody replacing him on Match of the Day is going to expect a ÂŁ1m+ salary to start with.

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