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(August 2003)

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A former member
Why on earth isn't this on the main channel list for the rest of the UK - do they think that all the Welsh live in Wales??? I am quite interested in listerning to both english and welsh language versions!

I wonder is Radio Scotland and Radio Ulster are following suit soon.....and maybe BBC local radio for us in the England!!
MO
Moz
mikeprz posted:
Why on earth isn't this on the main channel list for the rest of the UK - do they think that all the Welsh live in Wales??? I am quite interested in listerning to both english and welsh language versions!


Radio Wales doesn't broadcast in Welsh. It's an English language station. Radio Cymru is the Welsh one.

Aren't both avaliable online?
AJ
A.J.A.
mikeprz posted:
I wonder is Radio Scotland and Radio Ulster are following suit soon.....and maybe BBC local radio for us in the England!!


Yes, Radio Ulster and Radio Foyle (North-West of Northern Ireland) went on Freeview yesterday. Channels 89 and 90 respectively in Northern Ireland.
OZ
ozsat Founding member
Scotland should also have gone live!
PE
Pete Founding member
I found the test for Scotland and Gaelic in the 900s a few days ago - where are they now?
DI
digiperson
The new radio channels on Freeview are: -

Channel 89

BBC Radio Scotland [Scotland Only]
BBC Radio Wales [Wales Only]
BBC Radio Ulster [Northern Ireland Only]

Channel 90

BBC Radio Nan Gaidheal [Scotland Only]
BBC Radio Cymru [Wales Only]
BBC Radio Foyle [Northern Ireland Only]

All due this month, most are now available after a re-scan in the regional areas only.

digiperson
NE
Neil__
Are the English going to get any extra radio then?
DI
digiperson
Neil Green posted:
Are the English going to get any extra radio then?


Nope, don't look like it

digiperson
MI
Mich Founding member
digiperson posted:
Neil Green posted:
Are the English going to get any extra radio then?


Nope, don't look like it

digiperson


It really does annoy me how that nations can have their regional stations and slots whereas the English are left aside.

Atleast in this case there is a vaguely technical side to it (i.e. most main transmitters cover more than two local radio stations), however with the regional BBC 2 slots, the network feed is just left in case the regions fail and need to fall back on the main feed.
CW
cwathen Founding member
I see that these are coming from SDN. Just how much space does SDN have?

I agree that English regional stations should be carried too. I realise that some transmitters are covering areas which are served by more than one radio station, but in most cases this isn't more than 2, and only in a couple of isolated cases (if at all) is it more than 3, but it must nevertheless be possible for most of the country to be able to get their local station on DTT.

Or alternatively, if England doesn't get any regional radio, then they could carry Radio 4 LW in England, to at least get the full network radio offering available on DTT.
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A former member
The big problem with providing the local english stations is just that..... they are local, not regional.

Scotland and Wales have the advantage that SDN have always regionalised those areas for S4C and TeleG, so adding a couple of radio stations was easy (not sure about NI). The BBC would have to pay SDN for 40 new regional feeds to provide each station.

The BBC MUX is regional, but not local so it would take a hell of a lot of re-engineering to provide a localised station - especially where 1 DTT transmitter covers more than 1 station. There isn't the room for most of the regions to have all their stations on - some have 5 or 6 stations in their patch.

Then the other major problem is getting the output of each station to the local TV building - in some cases there is a radio station in the same building, the rest though are remote with no permanant feed except to their transmitter. This last problem is also one of the problems with putting BBC Local on Sky - getting all the stations back to London - it was difficult enough with the TV regions.
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A former member
Mich posted:
however with the regional BBC 2 slots, the network feed is just left in case the regions fail and need to fall back on the main feed.


Eh? What? I don't understand!

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